Valour endless gold raining ...

[Bonze]

[BlackMilk]

worst suggestion of all time

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

worst suggestion of all time

~100% loomed my old friend.

[Bonze]

~100% loomed my old friend.

 

worst suggestion of all time

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[BlackMilk]

~100% loomed my old friend.

Generation 1 Level 28.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Generation 1 Level 28.

Don't care about your gen or your level, my point is still quite valid.

[Bonze]

Generation 1 Level 28.

Come to EU1 and show us how the valour system works with no looms  mr. superman !

[zagibu]

Generation 1 28 Level 28 1.

Fixed that for you.

[Smoothrich]

I played my cav alt for about an hour today, only armor loomed; non-loomed shield, non-loomed horse, non-loomed normal lance, and I was leading the score board most of the time and also got valour like every second round.

inb4 "Cav is OP anyway buhu" I didn´t play cav for like a year, I suck at cav, it was another alt before I just respecced for fun into cav.

Leading the score board/getting valou often is pretty easy without any looms if you are a halfway-good player.

hey guys the valor/points system and cav balance is fine, i'm a terrible cavalry player and i top the scoreboards and get valor every round win or lose as cav!

^^ this guy proof that current point system, new valor, and cav are all dumb

[Miwiw]

I would remove Valour all together anyway, as it a) usually only rewards infantry players / cav players (as it is score based its no use for crossbowmen/archers/throwers/similar builds), b) and 90% of all players won't ever get valour. And those who currently get valour usually do not really need it (about 90% of those are playing all day anyway, got a high level or already enough gold).

Even if I could get valour every round, I wouldn't really need it. It's a nice addition but not really needed.

[Leshma]

You're earning shit load of points as lancer?

Now make xbow char and come back saying how you get valor every time.

It's much easier to earn points with some builds compared to others. Score valor just make those builds more desirable and eventually will lead to even less build variety.

[Leshma]

Your main is piker. That also gives shitload of points if you're decent at it.

Bazinga always have a lot of points with his awlpike alt with 10 ath and light armor.

Teeth earns more points on his hoplite alt than when playing his swashbuckler main.

I can't earn many points as agi swashbuckler but if I used pierce weapon I could have at least 50% more points than I earn on average on my alt.

On main, it's easy mode. Wait for cav and dehorse them one by one, earning shitload of points.

[Bonze]

I would remove Valour all together anyway, as it a) usually only rewards infantry players / cav players (as it is score based its no use for crossbowmen/archers/throwers/similar builds), b) and 90% of all players won't ever get valour. And those who currently get valour usually do not really need it (about 90% of those are playing all day anyway, got a high level or already enough gold).

Even if I could get valour every round, I wouldn't really need it. It's a nice addition but not really needed.

exactly, casual players need more love and not the  24/7 faction .
Valour = Unnecessary ueberbuff for pro ..

[Smoothrich]

I´m not saying anything different, neither am I in favor nor against cav, I just said what happened

Smoothrich just don´t knows my main Character, but he is NA, how could he.

Maybe he missunderstood me or something.

I don't see what I misunderstood, you said you were pretty bad at cavalry yet you managed to farm valor every round just because lancer cav is an OP class that gives too many points so you get valor win or lose.  Same with strength builds.

I used to prefer flanking by myself more often then not but a few rounds last night I just mindlessly went with the blob and stabbed idiots in the front line main engagement and everytime I did that I got valor, anytime I tried to flank to fight cav and other flankers I wouldn't get valor.  Flanking is worthless if you want points unless you are an OP lancer or a shielder who can just right click and survive everything until the end every round.

See:  ranged classes almost never getting valor, lighter infantry rarely if ever getting valor, strength builds and cav on winning team almost always getting valor.  Dumb.

[Smoothrich]

Oh, medium infantry can get lots of points and valor too, my main is medium armor 21/18 2hander.  Just that if I stuck with the blob and stabbed people on the front line, I got massive points and valor.  If I played how I prefer which is flanking around to hunt/bait cav, show up to the rear of big fights, all that high maneuver light infantry gameplay, I get a greatly reduced amount of points, unless I perform 150 percent and never die to ranged and 1vs1 ten people by myself that I can hit 5+ times each (almost never happens of course).

Just blob up and stab the other blob (or be cav).. such stupid gameplay and this system is rewarding that playstyle the most.  I don't need looms or levels either but if the points system replaces all XP gain eventualy it just seems like another barrier for new players to gain levels and items, since they won't even get carried to 5x by good teammates anymore.

Also valor is a kick in the nuts when the winning team gets it over and over.