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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2012, 09:08:24 pm »
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I do remember hearing somewhere around the WaltF4 stuff that Athletics increases acceleration more than top speed.  Which, to me is important.  I definitely notice when I have less athletics.

In any case, OP is about the effects of strength on run speed at different weights.  Interesting to see it kinda doesn't.
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2012, 09:59:23 pm »
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rAve, please stop posting. You make shit up and present it as fact.

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2012, 01:40:58 am »
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then enlighten me, please mr allknowing

Paul is a dev, I'm fairly sure he knows what he's talking about much more than you.

To save him the trouble of losing the braincells, I'll enlighten you in place of Paul.

Agi doesn't increase attack speed, Strength doesn't counter weight penalty applied by armor.

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2012, 02:02:01 am »
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Agi doesn't increase attack speed, Strength doesn't counter weight penalty applied by armor.


The agi part is true; the strength part was false some days/weeks ago, when (on the website) you could read while pointing your cursor on strenght <<reduces the movement speed penalty caused by weight>> in a tooltip. Now this tooltip is gone.


Devs do know everything but let cRPG players find the truth by themselves :rolleyes:

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2012, 02:03:29 am »
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The agi part is true; the strength part was false some days/weeks ago, when (on the website) you could read while pointing your cursor on strenght <<reduces the movement speed penalty caused by weight>> in a tooltip. Now this tooltip is gone.

Just because a tooltip says it doesn't mean it's true.

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2012, 02:46:45 am »
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The agi part is true; the strength part was false some days/weeks ago, when (on the website) you could read while pointing your cursor on strenght <<reduces the movement speed penalty caused by weight>> in a tooltip. Now this tooltip is gone.


Devs do know everything but let cRPG players find the truth by themselves :rolleyes:

That tooltip was some urban legend thing finding its way into the interface, many players believe it but as this good guy has demonstrated in the OP it's not true.  Too bad strength stacking is still bullshit for other reasons though!

Would love to see some videos demonstrating agility and athletics as well, or links to any that were already done.
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2012, 03:48:07 am »
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I was never aware that strength was rumored to add quickness x.x

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2012, 04:02:10 am »
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Same day , same old strength build stacking.

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2012, 04:19:12 am »
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2012, 05:43:11 am »
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Having high strength and it being harder to maneuver actually helps if you have good blocking skills, how is my opponent supposed to know how and where I'm going to end up stepping if I barely have any idea? Add 120+ length weapons for best results.
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2012, 08:39:04 am »
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2012, 01:50:14 pm »
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Of course strength doesn't affect movement speed. Weird myth that popped up on forums recently.
Agility and athletics do, and there is this relevant thread for all the facts data you need: http://forum.meleegaming.com/beginner%27s-help-and-guides/running-in-crpg/

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With that being said, i hope this kills any of the myth of strength effecting movement.
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2012, 01:52:06 pm »
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Agi doesn't increase attack speed

Of course it does. Have you ever tried different builds while using the same weapon?

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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2012, 01:53:21 pm »
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Of course it does. Have you ever tried different builds while using the same weapon?
Agility does not affect weapon speed, only WPF does.
For info on weapon speed, agility, and wpf, Go here: http://forum.meleegaming.com/beginner%27s-help-and-guides/weapon-attack-speed-and-proficiency-and-not-agility/
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Re: just another test. this time strength and movement speed
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2012, 02:08:42 pm »
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Tested with a movement speed calcuation script.

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I finally made a movement speed test on a complete flat 1020x1020m map.
I tested two different builds(0str/30str) with different carry weights(10/20/30/40/50/100).

 carry weight= 0.0kg    10.0kg    20.0kg     30.0kg   40.0kg    50.0kg    100.0kg
 
   0str  0agi= 3.49m/s  3.39m/s  3.31m/s  3.25m/s  3.20m/s  3.16m/s  3.02m/s

  30str  0agi= 3.44m/s  3.35m/s  3.28m/s  3.22m/s  3.17m/s  3.13m/s  3.00m/s


 carry weight= 0.0kg

   0str 30agi= 4.08m/s +10ath= 4.98m/s

  30str 30agi= 4.08m/s +10ath= 4.98m/s

The strange thing is, that strength actually lowers the speed if it has a higher value than agility.
Only if strength is on the same level as agility, you wont get any speed penalty from strength.

But now lets take a look on how much strength reduces the speed penalty from weight.

 carry weight= 0.0kg    10.0kg  20.0kg 30.0kg  40.0kg  50.0kg  100.0kg
 
   0str  0agi= 3.49m/s  -0.10    -0.18    -0.26    -0.29    -0.33    -0.47

  30str  0agi= 3.44m/s  -0.09    -0.16    -0.22    -0.27    -0.31    -0.44

As you can see strength has an effect on the movement speed.
It's not realy that much, but better than nothing. :wink:


EDIT
Each agility point increases the movment speed by ~0.6%. (this is the base movement speed)
Athlethics increases the base movement speed by ~2.2% per point.
Both wont effect the turning speed.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2012, 02:46:33 pm by _Sebastian_ »