just another test. this time strength and movement speed

[Elindor]

I do remember hearing somewhere around the WaltF4 stuff that Athletics increases acceleration more than top speed.  Which, to me is important.  I definitely notice when I have less athletics.

In any case, OP is about the effects of strength on run speed at different weights.  Interesting to see it kinda doesn't.

[rAve]

rAve, please stop posting. You make shit up and present it as fact.

then enlighten me, please mr allknowing

[Vkvkvk]

then enlighten me, please mr allknowing

Paul is a dev, I'm fairly sure he knows what he's talking about much more than you.

To save him the trouble of losing the braincells, I'll enlighten you in place of Paul.

Agi doesn't increase attack speed, Strength doesn't counter weight penalty applied by armor.

[Butan]

Agi doesn't increase attack speed, Strength doesn't counter weight penalty applied by armor.

The agi part is true; the strength part was false some days/weeks ago, when (on the website) you could read while pointing your cursor on strenght <<reduces the movement speed penalty caused by weight>> in a tooltip. Now this tooltip is gone.


Devs do know everything but let cRPG players find the truth by themselves

[cmp]

The agi part is true; the strength part was false some days/weeks ago, when (on the website) you could read while pointing your cursor on strenght <<reduces the movement speed penalty caused by weight>> in a tooltip. Now this tooltip is gone.

Just because a tooltip says it doesn't mean it's true.

[Smoothrich]

The agi part is true; the strength part was false some days/weeks ago, when (on the website) you could read while pointing your cursor on strenght <<reduces the movement speed penalty caused by weight>> in a tooltip. Now this tooltip is gone.


Devs do know everything but let cRPG players find the truth by themselves

That tooltip was some urban legend thing finding its way into the interface, many players believe it but as this good guy has demonstrated in the OP it's not true.  Too bad strength stacking is still bullshit for other reasons though!

Would love to see some videos demonstrating agility and athletics as well, or links to any that were already done.

[Miley]

I was never aware that strength was rumored to add quickness x.x

[BDsaysHi]

Same day , same old strength build stacking.

[Bobthehero]

Thank you Mala.

[SixThumbs]

Having high strength and it being harder to maneuver actually helps if you have good blocking skills, how is my opponent supposed to know how and where I'm going to end up stepping if I barely have any idea? Add 120+ length weapons for best results.

[dreadnok]

dont even bother sharing info mala. soo many cunts on this board and community

[Cyclopsided]

Of course strength doesn't affect movement speed. Weird myth that popped up on forums recently.
Agility and athletics do, and there is this relevant thread for all the facts data you need: http://forum.meleegaming.com/beginner%27s-help-and-guides/running-in-crpg/

If you don't want to read that thread:

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WaltF4 wins internet again

To summarize for the lazy people (although I still think you should read the whole WaltF4 post):

- total equipment weight decreases your speed (doesn't matter whether it's weapons or gear, it's all additive to same value)
- ath increases your speed
- agi increases your speed (1ath = 4-5 agi)
- higher agi characters suffer more speed penalty by weight
- held weapons decrease speed based on weapon weight AND weapon length (meaning - weight:5 2H decreases more than weight:5 1H)
- carrying a shield on the back while holding another shield decreases speed by a lot more than the weight sum should
- moving while blocking/chambering decreases speed
- back peddling decreases speed by about 50%
- back peddling while blocking/chambering speed decrease is about the same as while back peddling without blocking/chambering
- rain decreases speed

If something is incorrect or missing, please correct me.

With that being said, i hope this kills any of the myth of strength effecting movement.

[Leshma]

Agi doesn't increase attack speed

Of course it does. Have you ever tried different builds while using the same weapon?

[Cyclopsided]

Of course it does. Have you ever tried different builds while using the same weapon?

Agility does not affect weapon speed, only WPF does.
For info on weapon speed, agility, and wpf, Go here: http://forum.meleegaming.com/beginner%27s-help-and-guides/weapon-attack-speed-and-proficiency-and-not-agility/

[_Sebastian_]

Tested with a movement speed calcuation script.

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I finally made a movement speed test on a complete flat 1020x1020m map.
I tested two different builds(0str/30str) with different carry weights(10/20/30/40/50/100).

 carry weight= 0.0kg    10.0kg    20.0kg     30.0kg   40.0kg    50.0kg    100.0kg
 
   0str  0agi= 3.49m/s  3.39m/s  3.31m/s  3.25m/s  3.20m/s  3.16m/s  3.02m/s

  30str  0agi= 3.44m/s  3.35m/s  3.28m/s  3.22m/s  3.17m/s  3.13m/s  3.00m/s


 carry weight= 0.0kg

   0str 30agi= 4.08m/s +10ath= 4.98m/s

  30str 30agi= 4.08m/s +10ath= 4.98m/s

The strange thing is, that strength actually lowers the speed if it has a higher value than agility.
Only if strength is on the same level as agility, you wont get any speed penalty from strength.

But now lets take a look on how much strength reduces the speed penalty from weight.

 carry weight= 0.0kg    10.0kg  20.0kg 30.0kg  40.0kg  50.0kg  100.0kg
 
   0str  0agi= 3.49m/s  -0.10    -0.18    -0.26    -0.29    -0.33    -0.47

  30str  0agi= 3.44m/s  -0.09    -0.16    -0.22    -0.27    -0.31    -0.44

As you can see strength has an effect on the movement speed.
It's not realy that much, but better than nothing.


EDIT
Each agility point increases the movment speed by ~0.6%. (this is the base movement speed)
Athlethics increases the base movement speed by ~2.2% per point.
Both wont effect the turning speed.