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Macros : Cheat or Not?

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Offline Turkhammer

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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2012, 05:48:56 pm »
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2012, 05:55:35 pm »
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LOL this is so funny ; QQ MORE idiot immortality and kapikulu =)

I am playing this game for 2 years and if you are not able to win against me just find a spot and cry there =)

Actually i told immortality that some people are using macros to make combos like 4-5 mouths ago and for the record immortality's 9 of 10 sentence is a lie and the last one is suspicion =)

I play this game from keyboard ; Attack and Block everyfuckin thing is from keyboard and if you gonna try to blame someone think twice , but we are talking about kapikulu and immortality so the word "think" is not possible here.
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2012, 05:57:58 pm »
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Clearly cheating.  Why would you cheat in this game?  It's purely for fun.  I honestly don't understand the mentality behind it.   I often do very badly but when I do well it is very rewarding why would someone rob themselves of that feeling?
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2012, 05:59:06 pm »
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Because the fun for them is in ruining the game for other people. Retarded troll mentality prevalent in a lot of online games.
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2012, 06:01:26 pm »
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LOL this is so funny ; QQ MORE idiot immortality and kapikulu =)

I am playing this game for 2 years and if you are not able to win against me just find a spot and cry there =)

Well macros are obviously lame, but if I was you I wouldn't start spreading the stuff from Turkish board to all over the forums. Cmp has already warned you about this.

This thread is not about you Cicero.
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2012, 06:05:30 pm »
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But getting raped by some shithead getting extra help from third-party programs just makes you wanna quit gaming all together.



You don't even need a programmer for this. If you got a programmable mouse/Keyboard from for example Logitech (i dont know about others producers, i prefer logitech stuff) it is very easy to make makros for everything, they have a really decent software for it which you get with their hardware, you need no programming-experience at all.
Definitly cheating if someone is using makros to fight like the one in the video is cheating, but makros for Autowalk or for saying Sorry after th/tk are comfort^^
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 06:06:19 pm »
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Because the fun for them is in ruining the game for other people. Retarded troll mentality prevalent in a lot of online games.

That's a shame.  If your bad, be bad but be the best that you can be and be proud. 
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2012, 06:07:05 pm »
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This thread is not about you Cicero.
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In our Moonspeak, Immortality said that Cicero is using macros.
You don't know kapikulu nor turkish people ; this is thread only about me ; just check general discussion and find me 1 more topic that created by kapikulu ? Yea even this topic they organised a meeting to combine their english skilz to type 1 topic =)


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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2012, 06:16:44 pm »
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Well I'm out of this thread now. Don't cry to me if you continue this flaming and get muted by someone. I just tried to be nice and remind you of the possible consequences. I hope you guys could sort things out with PM's rather than doing it in public.

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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2012, 06:18:51 pm »
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I don't see what you would macro for this game anyways. Maybe auto run button, or macros for quick commands.

What else? Macros for holds or feints? Doesn't seem like any kind of advantage.

If you macro feints you can maintain almost complete control over your facing and movements while still performing complex feints.  That's a pretty big advantage if you ask me.

That's a shame.  If your bad, be bad but be the best that you can be and be proud.

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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2012, 06:21:08 pm »
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Well I'm out of this thread now. Don't cry to me if you continue this flaming and get muted by someone. I just tried to be nice and remind you of the possible consequences. I hope you guys could sort things out with PM's rather than doing it in public.

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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2012, 06:22:00 pm »
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LOL this is so funny ; QQ MORE idiot immortality and kapikulu =)

I am playing this game for 2 years and if you are not able to win against me just find a spot and cry there =)

Actually i told immortality that some people are using macros to make combos like 4-5 mouths ago and for the record immortality's 9 of 10 sentence is a lie and the last one is suspicion =)

I play this game from keyboard ; Attack and Block everyfuckin thing is from keyboard and if you gonna try to blame someone think twice , but we are talking about kapikulu and immortality so the word "think" is not possible here.

Emotality just got mad at you and since somebody was stupid enough to give him Admin over Turk Sub forums he tried to act like he was a big shot.
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2012, 06:30:17 pm »
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Cicero is not using macro's, he's the best real feinter I know.
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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2012, 06:52:39 pm »
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Anything that gives you an advantage over the majority of players could be a cheat.
  • Using macros
  • Installing a M&B sub mod (certain texture/sound changes)
  • Altering the M&B/crpg code yourself

Then there are things that gives you an advantage but can't be considered cheating.
Either becauase they are achievable within the game itself or because they are accepted or used by the majority.

  • Using DirectX7 instead of DirectX9
  • Turning of ingame music
  • Zooming out in 3rd person mode
  • Binding the action "jump" to a foot pedal controller
  • Using teamspeak or similar receiving valuable information possibly giving you an advantage

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Re: Macros : Cheat or Not?
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2012, 07:01:30 pm »
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Macros are soooo easily spotted, when you see someone feints 6/7 times (sometimes even like 15 feints in 4 seconds :rolleyes:) in a row at crazy speed (impossible to do with mouse, just look at the difference between mouse AND macro feinting in the video above) and always doing the same 2/3 combos: you have a macro user.

Some really good players on EU_3 did it very often and the only thing you had to do to beat them was combo-break and if they were too used to people being on the defense while they feinted like monsters you could wreck their shit.


If there is a way to detect them, I would be glad to have them banned.
If not, just deal with them accordingly (hate + spam).
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