getting crazy :l

[darmaster]

i can swear on whatever you want i didn't 1shot 2 archers (i was 10 mt distant), but robin hood had 1shot me with an arrow and i have a Heavy Crossbow with Steel Bolts and 158 wpf on xbow.. seriously guys i know you are a group of fascist-conservative people but at least admitt it: archers are fucking OP.. even with a shield i have to be scared because they do a fucking idiot movement and they shoot me.. most of you maybe don't mean this because they play on EU_cRPG_1 , but if you'd just go on EU_cRPG_4 you could see it with your eyes: seriously please do something cause this is getting pretty annoying. the archers i hit were robin hood and red war (that does a huge number of headshots (i'm not saying he cheats)). imo they should nerf the damage by 15-20% and put something that doesn't allow them to do that "overshield-shot" like a low acceleration or something like that don't know. thanks for reading P:

[Meow]

What level are you?
What is your build?
What armor do you use?
Were you moving towards the archer when you got hit?
What bow and arrows did he use?
Did he use heirloomed gear (bow/arrows)?
What level was he?
What was his build?

WPF does not influence crossbow damage btw.

Do you have any proof of that guy cheating or are you just randomly accusing people because you got killed?
Sorry, misread that "I'm not saying he cheats" part.

Edit: Fixed "typo" and later a "reado"

[Oberyn]

EU 4 always seems to be a few versions behind EU 1 anyways. Frigging polestagger still works there.

[isatis]

RESPOND NOW!!!

(good question Meow love those...)

seriously post more info Noaw!

[darmaster]

What level are you?  25
What is your build? 12-22 right now
What armor do you use? turkish robe yes very low armor
Were you moving towards the archer when you got hit? no was recharging xbow
What bow and arrows did he use? mw TATAR and mw rus bow (probably MW)
Did he use heirloomed gear (bow/arrows)? yes
What level was he? probalby 34
What was his build? 18 27 if i'm not wrong

the problem is that a heavy crossbow (not the hunting) doesn't 1shot archers (that weren't wearing such good body armor (neither was i ofc and that's why i got 1 shot)). and there's still another problem: the overshield-shot.

i didn't say he cheats, i just typed it cause i noticed it was really easy for him doing headshots (2-3 headshots per round seriously and the other shots were aiming to the head), and probably for all the other archers if they would aim a bit upper.

so the problem is not really that they 1shot me (cause as you can see i have 15 body armor with 47 hp) but I didn't with a 69+6 PIERCE damage from 10 mt.

[Miwiw]

Crossbows are supposed to 1hit if you hit the enemies' head. If not, they are not. usually. dont forget its pierce dmg.

[darmaster]

i repeat the problem is not ONLY that they 1 shot me (they usually 2-3 shot even if i have good bodyarmor and IF that's why i said nerf by 15% the damage) but there are many other things: they have an almost perfect aim, they do too much damage and they ofc run wherever they want because they have 7 ath or more and they're light; over 31 the archer becomes seriously OP, there's a huge difference between an archer at 28 and an archer at 34 but not such a big difference between a two hander at 28 and a 2h at 34. as i said imo archers need to be balanced.

[FleetFox]

What level are you?  25
What is your build? 12-22 right now
What armor do you use? turkish robe yes very low armor
Were you moving towards the archer when you got hit? no was recharging xbow
What bow and arrows did he use? mw TATAR and mw rus bow (probably MW)
Did he use heirloomed gear (bow/arrows)? yes
What level was he? probalby 34
What was his build? 18 27 if i'm not wrong

the problem is that a heavy crossbow (not the hunting) doesn't 1shot archers (that weren't wearing such good body armor (neither was i ofc and that's why i got 1 shot)). and there's still another problem: the overshield-shot.

i didn't say he cheats, i just typed it cause i noticed it was really easy for him doing headshots (2-3 headshots per round seriously and the other shots were aiming to the head), and probably for all the other archers if they would aim a bit upper.

so the problem is not really that they 1shot me (cause as you can see i have 15 body armor with 47 hp) but I didn't with a 69+6 PIERCE damage from 10 mt.

Robin will have used MW Bodkins

[darmaster]

no he doesn't use them anymore i'm sure..

[MrShine]

So let's review:

you have 12 strength,
are under level 25,
and are using light armor

you believe the archer who shot you is high level with MW equipment

you're upset that you got 1 shot while you didn't 1 shot the archer with your heavy xbow

...

I'm waiting for the part where something crazy happened.

(click to show/hide)

but you should get in contact with Tzar to apply to the anti-archer lobby - I think you'd fit right in

[[ptx]]

Loomed high damage CUT arrows with a MW high damage bow vs very, very light armor and low str/low level, one shot? What were you expecting?
In other news, i occasionally get 1shot by arbs at lvl30, when moving towards them in medium armor/light armor with balanced builds.

[darmaster]

So let's review:

you have 12 strength,
are under level 25,
and are using light armor

you believe the archer who shot you is high level with MW equipment

you're upset that you got 1 shot while you didn't 1 shot the archer with your heavy xbow

...

I'm waiting for the part where something crazy happened.

(click to show/hide)

but you should get in contact with Tzar to apply to the anti-archer lobby - I think you'd fit right in

hmm let's say you read the rest and modify your review i didn't say the problem is that they 1shot me (even if they do too much damage) the problem is that i didn't 1shot them. second even with a shield i have serious problem killing them because there's a stupid movement which gets me 2 shot. third they can run wherever they want. please read the other parts than you can type your reviews

[Radament]

so...i just used the archery calc some druzhina guy did and the result is = 1 hit to death ( 56.3 ---> 61.2 )

try yourself http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/?go=archercalc

i just think lvl 35 build is op , not archers in general.

[Meow]

Well, damage wise with an 18str build even without IF he would be able to survive a shot at around 29 body armor (body+gloves) if you hit the body and not the arms, I figure he had better armor than that.

Also against your low armor Tatar arrows potentially deal more damage than bodkins.

Due to the high randomness in the damage calculation it's always hard to say if something was an extreme case or not, this looks pretty normal and doesn't sound like anything that would be a reason for an archer nerf.

[MrShine]

hmm let's say you read the rest and modify your review i didn't say the problem is that they 1shot me (even if they do too much damage) the problem is that i didn't 1shot them. second even with a shield i have serious problem killing them because there's a stupid movement which gets me 2 shot. third they can run wherever they want. please read the other parts than you can type your reviews

I did read the rest of your post, and I find your argument lacking.  You're comparing a 12 strength peasant in light armor to a high level archer with MW equipment, and then calling for substantial nerfs to a game that you don't seem to have a good grasp on.   As you play longer and get closer to 30/flesh out a better build with more hp you'll find that people rarely get 1 shot by range of any kind unless it's a headshot.  2 shots for the stronger weapons (like your heavy crossbow) are much more frequent, and archers tend to kill in 2-6 body shots depending on the bow, build, hp & armor of the target, arrows, MW equipment, etc.