NA Tourny Poll 2

[Duster]

I don't think this is a reasonable standard.  Even a team with great teamwork and communication is limited by their gear, skill, and terrain.  Ten plated charges in plate charging a mix of infantry on a cavalry have a definite advantage.

plated chargers are garbage, coursers would mop them up 2 to 5

[Kaelaen]

If the infantry are working together cav isn't going to be a problem since they'll all be carrying pikes.  I recall playing some small battles recently (15 vs 15 maybe) where we had the cav advantage (5-7 cav vs 1 funny guy on a sumpter).  Needless to say the first two rounds we took easily as they were still disorganized but when some arm chair general took command and got those randoms to huddle in a ball of pikes they crushed us.  I know we were hardly organized to deal with their organization but if we were, then it might have been even.  I'd still give the advantage to the infantrymen though, I don't think a cav's role in this game is to attack people who are paying attention to you.

[Rhade]

I don't agree with the budget thing, everyone should be able to compete unrestricted in their best gear. Sounds alot more fun.

Seriously?

If we even enter, we're here to compete and see who's the most skilled, not who's the fattest nerd living in their mother's basement with the best phat lewts.

On topic: 10v10 would disqualify most of the clans out there, as most clans would struggle to field 10 actives.

[Native_ATS]

Seriously?

If we even enter, we're here to compete and see who's the most skilled, not who's the fattest nerd living in their mother's basement with the best phat lewts.

On topic: 10v10 would disqualify most of the clans out there, as most clans would struggle to field 10 actives.

i dont think i ever seen 10 bks befor... i belive it is like a 5 guy clan 

[Ecko]

No offense...but anything less than 10 isnt a clan...its a squad

[Diomedes]

If we even enter, we're here to compete and see who's the most skilled, not who's the fattest nerd living in their mother's basement with the best phat lewts.

What kind of gear are you thinking of?
 

plated chargers are garbage, coursers would mop them up 2 to 5

I said they were against infantry.  The only real remedy would be for everyone to bring a pike, and I know that most players don't do that every round because they can generally expect teams in Battle not to spam heavy horsemen.  My point is that there are teams which can find advantages through spamming certain gear and that these cases, which I don't find very fun, can be mitigated with ratio-based precautions.

[Braeden]

No offense...but anything less than 10 isnt a clan...its a squad

And anything more than 10 isn't a clan, its a mob.
Only at precisely and exactly 10 does one exist as a clan.

[Rhade]

No offense...but anything less than 10 isnt a clan...its a squad

That's why professional clans play Counter Strike with 5v5, right Ecko?

In your RP world, it may seem that the acme of "skill" is using "tactics" such as "everyone camp, 1 shield guard each archer!" and that in order to be a true "clan" you must use "tactics" to coordinate with huge numbers of people.

I'd argue that's more roleplaying than competitive FPS play, and if we are, indeed, having a tournament I'd imagine the goal here is to compete, not to RP, so I'd say 5v5 or 7v7 is absolutely fine and totally acceptable as a "clan".

[Noble Crassius]

Off-topic I like this guy he speaks funny words.

[Guts]

Buy shields

Someone's having flashbacks. A squad with good teamwork and communication can adapt to any kind of lineup.

haha the old buy a sheild. Durrrr i never thought of that one ,but there is one small problem they have bonus to sheilds, and usually shatter sheilds.

With how many players that should be allowed to compete. I have to agree with Rhade 5v5 , and 7v7 are totally acceptable for a clan ; in addition , with 10v10 the possibilities of turning to range spam and lets all camp in this tiny room greatly increase. Also some of us are here to compete and have some fun with some scrimmy scrams. Not RP sheild walls which was very boring no offense.

[Braeden]

That's why professional clans play Counter Strike with 5v5, right Ecko?

In your RP world, it may seem that the acme of "skill" is using "tactics" such as "everyone camp, 1 shield guard each archer!" and that in order to be a true "clan" you must use "tactics" to coordinate with huge numbers of people.

I'd argue that's more roleplaying than competitive FPS play, and if we are, indeed, having a tournament I'd imagine the goal here is to compete, not to RP, so I'd say 5v5 or 7v7 is absolutely fine and totally acceptable as a "clan".

Lol Ecko. You got called an RP'er.
I'd say that Rhade thinks you've gone native, but I guess here it would be you've ceased being Native.

[Ecko]

That's why professional clans play Counter Strike with 5v5, right Ecko?

In your RP world, it may seem that the acme of "skill" is using "tactics" such as "everyone camp, 1 shield guard each archer!" and that in order to be a true "clan" you must use "tactics" to coordinate with huge numbers of people.

I'd argue that's more roleplaying than competitive FPS play, and if we are, indeed, having a tournament I'd imagine the goal here is to compete, not to RP, so I'd say 5v5 or 7v7 is absolutely fine and totally acceptable as a "clan".

Your right rhade...i like to roleplay as if i'm better than allers...you should know something about that....

[Native_ATS]

Your right rhade...i like to roleplay as if i'm better than allers...you should know something about that....

hey its not like it was a 1v1 duel.... oh wait it was?   

[Quirian]

Just limit the amount of ranged weapons, two 2-3 stacks per team. So no one can throw 20000000 million things at you

Personally I prefer smaller battles, and I think they are more thrilling but in the end its all about sticking together and teamwork. Make some videos of your crazy NA tournament

[Duster]

Whole lotta lobbying going on here, on both sides. Rhade is in a very small group and wears light armor, and therefore would like a 5 on 5 with a small budget. Of course. I'm part of a large group and play a cavalry character, and would like to not be held back from using proper equipment for my class and actually employ tactics in a 10 v 10, which is one of the most fun things you can do in this game. It seems some people really just want to duel 5 people in a row, not have Battles.