Gay Marriage? You'r Thoughts?

[Teeth]

Reproduction is what's killing human population so gays actually help us more than you think.

Somewhat of a paradox, no? Population growth might lower the average standard of living of humans, but it hasn't yet. It is not killing human population, increasing it actually and obviously.

According to nature, mass reproduction always ends badly for the species doing it.

Name me one of these species.

[Leshma]

Homosexuals can't do the most important thing according to nature, reproduction, so biology perhaps.

Of course they can reproduce. At least one of them, I mean. Science is a really miraculous thing, we're already able to do many things that were considered impossible few centuries ago.

We just don't have the courage to tell nature to fuck off and replace most natural mechanisms with our versions.

[Vibe]

According to nature, mass reproduction always ends badly for the species doing it.

Name me one of these species.

Archers

[Rhekimos]

Archers

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[Arathian]

Any moron that says the western world has an OVERPOPULATION problem with a 1.7 birthrate should be thoroughly slapped in the face for being so utterly silly.

Africa is overpopulated, China is overpopulated, India is overpopulated. Europe is NOT overpopulated. In fact, Europe, America, Australia etc are, or are going to be very soon, underpopulated.

And unless you start campaigning for Saudi Arabia to allow gay marriage (please do, that would be hilarious), this is probably the most idiotic arguement to date.

[Son Of Odin]

Name me one of these species.

Yeast in a wine bottle for example. In their short-sightedness they reproduce so much the alcohol level eventually kills off all the yeast. The earth is just a very big wine bottle and now the scale of human effects are global.

Any moron that says the western world has an OVERPOPULATION problem with a 1.7 birthrate should be thoroughly slapped in the face for being so utterly silly.

Am I saying that it's western world that is overpopulating?

[Arathian]

Am I saying that it's western world that is overpopulating?

Might as well argue that Somalia needs green development then because heavy industry threatens the environment.

Gay marriage is a western issue ONLY. The other regions still debate whether gays should be hanged or simply jailed for life. So, for the next 50 years, maybe more, this arguement is pointless.

[Germanicus]

yes allow it...what the fuck??? its already allowed

[Arathian]

yes allow it...what the fuck??? its already allowed

Not recognized at a federal level, which is quite silly really. Actually, this whole debate is silly for reasons I will explain when I have my PC and not be forced to type on my iPhone.

[Rhekimos]

Might as well argue that Somalia needs green development then because heavy industry threatens the environment.

Gay marriage is a western issue ONLY. The other regions still debate whether gays should be hanged or simply jailed for life. So, for the next 50 years, maybe more, this arguement is pointless.

Things are worse somewhere else, so any problems here should be ignored?

When can we talk about our problems again? Do we really have to wait until we're the worst part of the world?

[Arathian]

Things are worse somewhere else, so any problems here should be ignored?

When can we talk about our problems again? Do we really have to wait until we're the worst part of the world?

No, things are problematic somewhere else, but don't exist here, so they should be ignored.

Going forward with my example, this discussion is equally pointless to discussing how to solve the problem of piracy off the shore of Norway (presumably by Vikings) because Somalia has pirates.

Overpopulation is NOT a western problem. Bringing it forward as an arguement about something that will affect western countries EXLUSIVELY remains, I insist, silly.

[Overdriven]

Curious, what kind of anti-gay science have you found?
You make it sound like the science is muddled on the issue. May I inquire what kind of science there is against homosexuality?

Does some research say that it's harmful, perhaps?

More that there are psychological reasons for it occurring. As in it isn't inherent, not born 'gay'.  Which makes for interesting debate as to whether it's something brought on by an event in childhood or other such experiences. Perhaps for and against was the wrong term. I more specifically meant whether it is something purely natural and determined from the onset for whatever reason, or something that is brought on by experiences later on. Obviously that swerves into the dangerous territory of is it a mental condition (for example schizophrenia often occurs around the early 20's though it can be argued people have a pre-disposition towards it). But then any LGBT community I've ever spoken to will insist it's something that is in a sense pre-determined. It's them and that's how they were born which makes you wonder what determines that.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with any of this simply that it makes for interesting topic because of so many degrees of argument, religious ect.

Overpopulation is NOT a western problem. Bringing it forward as an arguement about something that will affect western countries EXLUSIVELY remains, I insist, silly.

Depends what angle you take. Indirectly over population in the east is a massive western problem for economic, trade, immigration and other reasons. The west itself isn't over populating, but it's still an issue that affects us in a big way.

[Arathian]

Depends what angle you take. Indirectly over population in the east is a massive western problem for economic, trade, immigration and other reasons. The west itself isn't over populating, but it's still an issue that affects us in a big way.

That may be so (it is a whole new discussion) however gay marriage in the WEST will NOT help solve the overpopulation problem in any other part of the world.

[Miwiw]

It does not have to. Gay marriage is a good thing, theres not one proper reason against it. Not a single one.

[Overdriven]

That may be so (it is a whole new discussion) however gay marriage in the WEST will NOT help solve the overpopulation problem in any other part of the world.

It depends. Current trends in countries such as India are that they pretty much copy the west. Whilst you have 1000's of years of tradition, for example the Caste system which was eradicated as law but is still evident in social practice, gay couples are actually becoming more and more prominent as the east becomes increasingly western. They still obviously face a lot of prejudice but it's much better than it used to be. Not to mention with high levels of foreign students in most western universities, as well as sizeable immigration, many western ideals get transferred to the east, particularly that of liberalisation and acceptance. It's a slow transition to be sure. But there's nothing to say many eastern countries won't eventually follow on from the west which in some sense can be a good thing, though obviously not all good.

And that 'east' is a massive generalisation though obviously.

Edit:

Meant to say that gay marriage in the east could therefore help with over population a little bit for obvious reasons (gay couples more like to adopt and not directly reproduce). Naturally it would be a drop in the ocean but every little helps.