Equipment/Realism/Whatever (poll inside)

[Gnjus]

Just a quick survey: does anyone else thinks that Plate Armors and unrealistic weapons (3 meter pikes, flamberges, great mauls, etc) should be removed from this mod ? Maybe its time to make this small step towards realism as I'm sure it can only be good for balance as well. Not that Plate is unrealistic but I'm certain many will agree that it just doesn't fit with most of the weapons & other stuff + we all saw what happens when people start swarming battle/strat servers with that equipment.

[Miwiw]

Pikes are not real?

[Bjord]

Plate is useless anyway.

Pikes btw, are not unrealistic.

Gnjus shitpost.

[Gnjus]

Pikes are not real?

Now tell me how pikes and flamberges are "unrealistic" ? 

Plate is useless anyway.

Pikes btw, are not unrealistic.

Historically they most certainly weren't used as in cRPG.

[Arrowblood]

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hmm i guess to be more accurate in history we need 5m pikes.

[Miwiw]

Historically they most certainly weren't used as in cRPG.

any proof they weren't?

[Tears of Destiny]

To be fair, almost no battles were done in the same way that c-RPG has them.

[Gnjus]

Yeh, yeh, I know what you guys are thinking - that I've read too much of Michael & Leshma lately but i assure you I haven't lost my plot just yet. 

But seriously: Great Mauls ? Flamberges ? 3 Meter Pikes that you can block with and abuse their animations ? 17th century plate armors ? You're having a laugh.

[Miwiw]

And you probably qq'ed today? Did Chase kill you? Did you meet Vincent_Ruth? 

[_Tak_]

Plate is indeed pretty much useless nowadays, can die from 2 bodkin shot/ 2 arbalest shots, 85% of chance to  die in 1 couch. And damage to the head is just too big..nuff said

[Gnjus]

And you probably qq'ed today? Did Chase kill you? Did you meet Vincent_Ruth? 

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[Ragni_Bross]

Fix the pike rather than remove it. I've suggested how several times and it is indeed possible to fix it in terms of realism AND balance if only people stopped thinking of it as a 1v1/main weapon. Anyone saying that the pike is not unrealistic obviously knows nothing on the subject.

[Penitent]

lololololololololololololololololololol

All those weapons/armors are realistic.

Less realistic are the 2h bar mace (there is only evidence of 1h versions existing in history as far as I can tell) and the War Cleaver which is MUCH larger and longer in game than the historical evidence suggests...but both of those are pretty minor.

Everything you suggested is pretty much 100% legit.

[Sultan Eren]

I said exactly the same things except plate and this is what i get: -14.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-balance-discussion/my-thoughts-on-classes/msg543174/#msg543174

[Tears of Destiny]

Maybe because the majority of us like variety and not boring small selections of realism. We already have a clone problem, it will only get worse if further gear restrictions were to be put in.