Throwing lances should hurt people even blocking with shields

[DaveUKR]

Don't forget that this damage is point blank = you get your damage reduced with any range plus don't forget about speed bonuses - lower missile speed you have - bigger speed bonuses/penalties affect your damage. So with successful dodge - you can survive a headshot from a thrower on some certain range.

[Teeth]

78 HP and 60 head armour, what would you expect?

Death.

[Smoothrich]

no ranged buffs except in point system

nerf heavy throwing axes

delete rus bow from game

triple bow weight of archers

make throwing weapons break as much as arrows

give all throwing axes half as much ammo

cut all xbow accuracy to 1/5 of what it is now, going back to 4/5 of what it is now at 150 effective xbow WPF

cut all horse armor ratings in half, lance damage by 1/4

permamute tears of destiny

^^ do this and good game for once maybe

edit:  didn't realize this was posted in the katana subforum.  disregard any of my necessary and popular majority opinions and circle jerk over ranged speed bonuses

[Tears of Destiny]

no ranged buffs except in point system

nerf heavy throwing axes

delete rus bow from game

triple bow weight of archers

make throwing weapons break as much as arrows

give all throwing axes half as much ammo

cut all xbow accuracy to 1/5 of what it is now, going back to 4/5 of what it is now at 150 effective xbow WPF

cut all horse armor ratings in half, lance damage by 1/4

permamute tears of destiny

^^ do this and good game for once maybe

Seeing you reply to my glorious thread I decided to take the liberty of reading your response and I am surprised to see that almost every point that you made utterly fails to be "realistic" and seems rather off-topic  with the notable exception of the amount of throwing axes that an individual can carry. Please stay on topic or I will be forced to report you. (See: Forum Rules)

In the future if you make similar errors you can always delete your rather large spam post and instead choose to put a simple "nvm" or an actual content-filled post, thank you for your understanding and cooperation! I regret to inform you that even if this was the normal Game Balance forum, your post would still be off-topic as we are discussing throwing lances (and throwing by extent) and not bows or crossbow wpf or really quite a few of your points. <3

Perhaps you were looking for either the Game Balance Discussion forum or the Suggestions Corner forum? This is the Realism Discussion forum, good sir.

#Seriousbusiness.

[isatis]

let's be realist a moment, if I remember correctly throwing lance (or pilum) were used to make shield useless (try to fight with a shield when a 5 foot lance is stuck in... humm ok you could break it but that mean a moment with no shield no cover : SO DEATH!!) and PLUS it could penetrate rather easily so it SHOULD does damage (reduced damaged because we all have a basis in physic and we all agree that  friction of shield would reduce the speed so the power of the lance) so from a REALISTIC point of view throwing lance should do damage even if shield up

or they should kill the shield

well let's say shield with less then 30 resistance (don't think the pilum could go throught the steel shield)

hum not clear but clean enough

(yes I was a masterwork throwing lance user... and I mean... with 10 pt when you waste ALL your lance on that shielder it's annoying even more considering you'll take 2 lance to kill almost anyone... and with the point system as I one shot many people my score will never get high (max 4 one shot... so about 20 points))

[DaveUKR]

Well, anyway shield penetration sounds cool and I would also want the price of throwing lances to go down to something like 5.5k. Already tried to lobby Urist, though he doesn't want to change anything

[BlindGuy]

XBOWS penetrate shields so code must be there for lances to do same. I dont miss the "Harpwn" (harpoon + pwnd) that lances WERE, but I do think they are a kinda jokey weapon now, sure the thrower might get TWO kills if he is lucky, with his entire ammo supply...

[Fartface]

That moment when I onehit bobby with an dadao , and he survives a throwing lance HS

[Rebelyell]

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[oprah_winfrey]

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If range hits you in the head, you wouldn't see the model. So that was either registered as a body shot and just looks like a headshot or is a headshot that didn't do damage (guy had 7 PT but no wpf/weaing too much armor).

[Rebelyell]

some of saracen guys made that pic and that 100% true
I had like 0HP left.

[pepejul]

I have seen many ranged weapons stuck in  head, model appears sometimes if it donesn't kill you I think it's true...

[Jarlek]

I have seen many ranged weapons stuck in  head, model appears sometimes if it donesn't kill you I think it's true...

IIRC it's shown if it dealt more than 80 (might be 70 or 60) damage to you. So, only high IF people can have a projectile stuck in the head while still being alive.

[Rumblood]

Okay, while it may be cool, the video is meh.

I hate to inform that in the middle ages, they did not use plywood or particle boards for their shield materials.

Just sayin...

[OssumPawesome]

posting in this thread because of how cool and suave the people in the op were