Glaive

[Son Of Odin]

90 Speed

LOL GOOD JOKE DEVS

Yeah increase the speed. That's just pathetic number!

[Latvian]

no....... just no

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[oprah_winfrey]

Yep, having a weapon that is LONGER than the distance from your knees to your shoulders+1ft that has to be carried at such an angle that you cant fit thru doorways.  150 is a great cut off

cute video.

[Digglez]

Isn't it so weird that a military who decided to use something a lot decided that carrying it by hand was a pretty crappy way of doing things in battle, and found a convenient solution?
granted, this could never be done for things like, say, a traditional pike obviously...

But 150cm long weapon "sheathed" as in you DO NOT have to drop it to use another weapon is a pretty manageable thing to do. I mean, Longbows are pretty long but they could be carried on the back so "sheathed" when needed.

Last I checked, cRPG's length units were not CM.  You think a pike is 300 cm?  Laugh.

Still waiting for some citations on your make believe answers bro.  Maybe you are confusing pilum (5-7ft) with darts (1.5 ft) that were clipped to a shield.  You think someone is going to "clip" a 7 ft javelin to their shield?

[Teeth]

Thing is, Paul is probably convinced that a 90 speed rating means that the glaive is exactly as fast as any other 90 speed weapon. He;s wrong though. Glaive and Long Hafted Blade have these crazy fast swings while having a ton of reach.

Shit is OP, atleast in duel, not sure how annoying the reach is in battle.

[Vibe]

Glaive and Long Hafted Blade have these crazy fast swings

No they don't.

[_Tak_]

Buff Glaive speed, its way too slow

[oprah_winfrey]

Last I checked, cRPG's length units were not CM.  You think a pike is 300 cm?  Laugh.

The pike was a long weapon, varying considerably in size, from 3 to 7.5 metres (10 to 25 feet) long. It was supposed to be about 16 ft but the soldiers normally cut a few feet off to make it easier to carry.

Seems like the pike could easily be 300 cm.

[TurmoilTom]

Why shouldn't the Glaive have 90 speed? Its attacks have only slightly longer reach than the danish greatsword anyway.

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Weapon lengths themselves aren't really comparable between weapon types. Animations add or reduce from the effective length of an attack. So in effect if you for example compare a thrust of a 120 length polearm (Bec de Corbin) and a 120 length twohander (Great Sword) they will NOT effectively reach the same lengths. Due to the way polearm is held polearm is from 15 to 61 units shorter depending on animation. This animation effect on reach is very noticeable especially with one handed weapon stabs. Even a short one handed sword can outrange a twohander or a polearm with a thrust in some cases. It's worth a note that polearms in general have longer options than twohanders to compensate for the shorter reaching animations.

1h
Overhead = +0
Left-to-right = +0
Right-to-left = +19
Thrust = +61

2h
Overhead = +15
Left-to-right = +17
Right-to-left = +13
Thrust = +80 (This may be slightly wrong with the new stab animation)

2h Polearms
Overhead = -15
Left-to-right = -7
Right-to-left = -2
Thrust = +19

1h Polearms
Thrust = +50

(Source: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9245.0.html)

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Danish Greatsword: 124 Length, 92 Speed.

Overhead: 139
Left to Right: 141
Right to Left: 137
Thrust: 204

Glaive: 160 Length, 90 Speed.

Overhead: 145
Left to Right: 153
Right to Left: 158
Thrust: 179

[Leshma]

I wouldn't call that slightly longer.

[Tom Cruise]

Why shouldn't the Glaive have 90 speed? Its attacks have only slightly longer reach than the danish greatsword anyway.

No I'm not saying its speed shouldn't be 90, I'm saying its speed isn't 90. That thing seems waaaaaaay faster then 90 speed and for its length. You can especially tell in a duel with someone that uses. Take Rhaelys for example.

[TurmoilTom]

No I'm not saying its speed shouldn't be 90, I'm saying its speed isn't 90. That thing seems waaaaaaay faster then 90 speed and for its length. You can especially tell in a duel with someone that uses. Take Rhaelys for example.

Rhaelys uses the Great Long Bardiche last I checked, and yes, I already know that it's faster than it seems. Same thing applies to the greatswords.

Consider this: Higher weapon weight and higher damage lessens your chances of glancing. Because of that your weapons sweet-spots can be stretched. In other words, you can turn into your swings to connect earlier in the swing arc and still maintain full damage. You should know about this considering you use a Sword of War.

Simply put, weapon speed is a worthless stat to bother thinking about if you know how to turn into your swings properly based on your damage and weapon weight. Why do you think 2-handers can pull of double swings so easily and not 1-handers?

[Tom Cruise]

Rhaelys uses the Great Long Bardiche last I checked, and yes, I already know that it's faster than it seems. Same thing applies to the greatswords.

Consider this: Higher weapon weight and higher damage lessens your chances of glancing. Because of that your weapons sweet-spots can be stretched. In other words, you can turn into your swings to connect earlier in the swing arc and still maintain full damage. You should know about this considering you use a Sword of War.

Simply put, weapon speed is a worthless stat to bother thinking about if you know how to turn into your swings properly based on your damage and weapon weight. Why do you think 2-handers can pull of double swings so easily and not 1-handers?

Well a lot depends on the animations for double swings. Castoring and hilt slashing is much easier with 2h than any other class due to the animations imo. The Glaive is 2.8 in wieght, and my Sword of war only only coming in at .2 more at 3 weight. So glancing shouldn't be a problem with the Glaive. Now put that along with the reach and magic speed of it, you can pretty much out spam and outreach almost anyone. With something as simple as the backpeddle you should get an easy advantage.

[TurmoilTom]

Well a lot depends on the animations for double swings. Castoring and hilt slashing is much easier with 2h than any other class due to the animations imo. The Glaive is 2.8 in wieght, and my Sword of war only only coming in at .2 more at 3 weight. So glancing shouldn't be a problem with the Glaive. Now put that along with the reach and magic speed of it, you can pretty much out spam and outreach almost anyone. With something as simple as the backpeddle you should get an easy advantage.

Your Sword of War has more weight and has more damage in all attack directions, therefore you can hit earlier in the swing arc. Your sword is faster than the glaive and the glaive is longer than your sword. Fair trade-off.

[Tom Cruise]

Your Sword of War has more weight and has more damage in all attack directions, therefore you can hit earlier in the swing arc. Your sword is faster than the glaive and the glaive is longer than your sword. Fair trade-off.

It barely weighs more and only has 1  more attack point in swing then the Glaive. The speed imo is faster then my sword, maybe not my much but its faster. But my whole point in this is I'm saying for its reach and damage it is too fast.