Pew! Pew! Pew!

[Elmetiacos]

It's happened at last: a reasonably full server last night and I looked at my team as we spawned on that new town map to see that well over half the characters had bows or crossbows. My team won the map 5-0 simply by shooting the enemy. No matter what they tried, they got shot. One round I never even saw a live enemy: it was all about shooting. Is this what we want?

[Torp]

na player?

[Christo]

This also happens with Cavalry.

Balancer can't put an equal number of cav and ranged to the two groups => Serious Imbalance, 5-0 matches..

[Tears of Destiny]

This also happens with cav imbalaces too, and a few others like clans where it puts all clans on one side, and nothing but hodge podge on the other side, brutal.

[Spawny]

Yup, in a siege game it put Templars and Fallen in 1 team vs randoms in the other team. Took us about a minute to take the castle, mostly due to the long walk to the flag.

[Dom.Miguel]

No tags on players....

[La Makina]

Yup, in a siege game it put Templars and Fallen in 1 team vs randoms in the other team. Took us about a minute to take the castle, mostly due to the long walk to the flag.

Reason why I disapprove banner balance.

[Armpit_Sweat]

Reason why I disapprove banner balance.

Well... Logically, everyone should form or join an existing faction/guild/group. Even though i am not a member of any, i want to see team-play and coordination rewarded, not punished by removing banner balance

[Spawny]

Reason why I disapprove banner balance.

Everyone uses a banner. Clans are just groups of people playing together using the same banner.
Banners are not for clans only though, I see lot's of people using the Templar banner without being a Templar or they have a Merc banner without being a Merc. Mostly probably without even knowing.

Those players still benefit from being balanced into our team based on their banner.

I do think groups with the same banner should be in opposite teams.

[La Makina]

Well, some players will pick up the banner of Merc/Fallen/Templar/... just to be on the right side (the side with the big multiplier)

The fact is that banner balance can make the teams actually unbalanced.

[Veto]

banner balance goes by score, then banner. its not that bad; maybe  people in clans like merc/fallen/templar are good? shocker i know

[Rhade]

I regularly go through when I'm in spectator and count ranged characters vs melee characters. It's usually something like 85% ranged characters on my team, with only a maybe 3-4 not having some sort of range. It's ridiculous.

[nuffen]

l2use shield and stop whining :p

[Havoco]

Well, remember the only weapon effectively nerfed were bows.the other two either don't require any skill points or very little skill points at all. Why wouldn't you use a ranged backup?

[Rhade]

l2use shield and stop whining :p

That forces 1h.

If I use a shield as a 2h, and try to move at all, other melee just get up on me and spam attack as I have no offense with a shield.

Also, unless you dump massive points into shield to get decent shields, the shield is either instantly obliterated or they simply shoot over it.

Facts.

Well, remember the only weapon effectively nerfed were bows.the other two either don't require any skill points or very little skill points at all. Why wouldn't you use a ranged backup?

Because not everyone should be a fucking hybrid.

This isn't Mount and Musket, where it's ranged first and melee if you HAVE TO, but lately that's what the mentality has been.