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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2011, 08:52:35 pm »
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Changed soak/reduction values. Apparently the script is faulty at high armor levels with these values, cut damage starts to behave funny. Interpret that as you will, damage calc has always been a guideline and not exact magic.

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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2011, 09:02:25 pm »
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Changed soak/reduction values. Apparently the script is faulty at high armor levels with these values, cut damage starts to behave funny. Interpret that as you will, damage calc has always been a guideline and not exact magic.

so, not big difference compared to reality in game :D

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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2011, 09:44:07 am »
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Great Thing this Char Builder.

Thanks a lot 4 this one!
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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2012, 10:27:04 pm »
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Very nice tool kit you have made. was very wonderful and looks very promising. was very useful too. could you possibly add the weight/ armour penalty to it please?

Like something like this:

Your armour weight: xxx (Insert here)

Your wps on one handed : xxx (insert here)

etc..

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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #79 on: January 17, 2012, 11:13:51 am »
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Elmokki integrated his improved damage calculation and effective wpf stuff into my base frame, effectively fixing my old inaccurate damage calculator with his.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24237.0.html

All hail!


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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #80 on: January 18, 2012, 12:31:46 am »
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Power strike's 8% bonus was used for bows, throwing weapons and crossbows. Crossbows also got wpf counted to their damage. This is now fixed.

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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #81 on: January 18, 2012, 03:17:33 am »
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Elmokki integrated his improved damage calculation and effective wpf stuff into my base frame, effectively fixing my old inaccurate damage calculator with his.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24237.0.html

All hail!

''fixing''

cough..

euh

min and max are inversed in your formula at high armor value you know. (i think the damage went in negative...)

and that thing behave strangely at cut with BIG armor(like 70 more.. :D) and low str (3str 0ps 1wpf)
65: 1,5
70: 1.5
75: 3
80: avg for 30 cut is 3.5
85: 5
90: 7

and for fun

400: 745,5

with ''normal'' built it work fine!

(was testing damage on a 3/39 built and was looking to see at wich point someone could gear crutch me and ignore my hits)

continue your good work!

ctrl-F5 FTW!!
« Last Edit: January 21, 2012, 05:08:24 am by isatis »
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Re: Vargas's Toolkit (Character Builder etc.)
« Reply #82 on: January 18, 2012, 10:06:07 am »
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''fixing''

cough..

euh

min and max are inversed in your formula at high armor value you know. (i think the damage went in negative...)

and that thing behave strangely at cut with BIG armor(like 70 more.. :D) and low str (3str 0ps 1wpf)
65: 1,5
70: 1.5
75: 3
80: avg for 30 cut is 3.5
85: 5
90: 7

and for fun

400: 745,5

with ''normal'' built it work fine!

(was testing damage on a 3/39 built and was looking to see at wich point someone could gear crutch me and ignore my hits)

continue your good work!

Tried control+F5? If you see effective wpf  calculation, you're using the new version (some iteration of it anyway, I've done a couple of patches for retarded bugs already :D). The old version had the faulty function for damage that resulted in U-shaped damage vs armor graphs. With the current one I fail to reproduce what you posted.

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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #83 on: January 19, 2012, 11:41:33 pm »
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The fixed damage and the weight calculator is gone on the website. i can't find it here or there. i only see damae calculated but not with the weight thing and the wps? where is it

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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #84 on: January 20, 2012, 04:50:27 pm »
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The fixed damage and the weight calculator is gone on the website. i can't find it here or there. i only see damae calculated but not with the weight thing and the wps? where is it

It's the same thing as with c-rpg.net showing faulty: you have the old version cached and thus need to force-reload (control + F5) or delete your cache.

So open the calculator on the first post of this thread and press control + F5. After that the "Melee weapon damage calculator" should have all the features my calculator had + proper wpf/pd/pt calculation for different kinds of ranged weapons + what that calculator had and mine didn't.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 04:51:43 pm by Elmokki »

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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2012, 05:07:58 am »
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ok it worked after some ctrl F5

thanks! (gonna modify previous post)
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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #86 on: February 02, 2012, 10:16:58 am »
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thank you for the calculator i use it so much

do you by chance know of any calculator that does ath and what effects it?

thank you for your time

due to me finding one of waltf4's studys (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2531.0.html)

i want to try to make a good balance between speed and power and i believe my current build is lacking
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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2012, 12:52:09 pm »
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Is it down?

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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2012, 02:17:37 pm »
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Re: Min-maxer toolkit - Character Builder & Damage Calculator
« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2012, 03:12:47 pm »
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Meh!