The Battle of Belgrade

[Bobthehero]

Japaneese are turks, so are the people of Belgrade, in the end the turks won.

[bredeus]

should be moved to spam section...

[Shaehl]

I'm pretty sure that movie is supposed to a stab at 300 and perceived Persia hate.

[Vuchko]

Who owns Belgrade now and where is the Ottoman Empire?

[Safavid]

The Ottomans left their culture in Belgrade, it's even in the food people eat.  Regarding the current time, Turkey itself was Greek Ionia, where are the Greeks now?  The Persians also owned it as well, where are they now? Empires rise and fall...don't be surprised.  However during their time period they were the best of the best.  Their Janissaries were the USMC of their time. 

[Bobthehero]

lolUSMC, Janies were like any other elite group, overhyped to hell.

[Safavid]

Yes, a lot of the USMC customs, such as the Mehteran (Military Band), Mameluke Sword (Swords used by the Slave Warriors of the Sultan), Tughra (Seal of the Sultan which is similar to the navy seal), Red Flag (Red Ottoman Flag), and more.  The Janissaries were not overhyped, they were Multi-Cultural Soldiers trained with the best weapons, armor, and technology of their era.  They were the supreme Superpower of their time period, similar to America now.  Once the Ottomans declined, the European powers learning technology from them came up and became the new superpowers...SIMILAR TO CHINA, INDIA, IRAN, AND RUSSIA now...Everything that has advanced these 4 current countries is based on learning from America.  The same way the Europeans learned from the Ottomans.

[Bobthehero]

Thats bullshit, go to hell 

[Safavid]

Ottoman Mameluke Sword

A Mameluke sword is a cross-hilted, curved, scimitar-like sword historically derived from sabres used by Mamluk warriors of Mamluk Egypt from whom the sword derives its name. It is related to the shamshir,[1] which had its origins in Persia from where the style migrated to India, Egypt and North Africa[2] and the Turkish kilij. It was adopted in the 19th century by several Western militaries, including the French Army, British Army and the United States Marine Corps. Although some genuine Ottoman sabres were used by Westerners, most "mameluke sabres" were manufactured in Europe or America; their hilts were very similar in form to the Ottoman prototype, but their blades tended to be longer, narrower and less curved than those of the true kilij, while being wider and also less curved than the Persian shamshir. In short, the hilt retained its original shape and the blade tended to resemble the blade-form typical of contemporary Western military sabres. The Mameluke sword remains the ceremonial side arm for some units to this day.

United States Marine Corps

Today's U.S. Marine Corps officers' Mameluke sword closely resembles those first worn in 1826.
Marine Corps history states that a sword of this type was presented to Marine First Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon by the Ottoman Empire viceroy, Prince Hamet, on December 8, 1805, during the First Barbary War, as a gesture of respect and praise for the Marines' actions at the Battle of Derne.[3] Upon his return to the United States, the state of Virginia presented him with a silver-hilted sword featuring an eaglehead hilt and a curved blade modeled after the original Mameluke sword given him by Hamet. Its blade is inscribed with his name and a commemoration of the Battle of Tripoli Harbor.[4]
Perhaps due to the Marines' distinguished record during this campaign, including the capture of the Tripolitan city of Derna after a long and dangerous desert march, Marine Corps Commandant Archibald Henderson adopted the Mameluke sword in 1825 for wear by Marine officers. After initial distribution in 1826, Mameluke swords have been worn except for the years 1859-75 (when Marine officers were required to wear the U.S. Model 1850 Army foot officers' sword), and a brief period when swords were suspended during World War II. Since that time, Mameluke swords have been worn by Marine officers in a continuing tradition to the present day.[5]

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mameluke_sword

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SIMILAR TO CHINA, INDIA, IRAN, AND RUSSIA now...Everything that has advanced these 4 current countries is based on learning from America.  The same way the Europeans learned from the Ottomans.

Wow, really. Too much cheap movies are no good for you.

[Siiem]

Yes, a lot of the USMC customs, such as the Mehteran (Military Band), Mameluke Sword (Swords used by the Slave Warriors of the Sultan), Tughra (Seal of the Sultan which is similar to the navy seal), Red Flag (Red Ottoman Flag), and more.  The Janissaries were not overhyped, they were Multi-Cultural Soldiers trained with the best weapons, armor, and technology of their era.  They were the supreme Superpower of their time period, similar to America now.  Once the Ottomans declined, the European powers learning technology from them came up and became the new superpowers...SIMILAR TO CHINA, INDIA, IRAN, AND RUSSIA now...Everything that has advanced these 4 current countries is based on learning from America.  The same way the Europeans learned from the Ottomans.

Yes... because we all know multicultural slaves were the oldiers that would get the best equipment...

[TehSoviet]

Ottoman Mameluke Sword

A Mameluke sword is a cross-hilted, curved, scimitar-like sword historically derived from sabres used by Mamluk warriors of Mamluk Egypt from whom the sword derives its name. It is related to the shamshir,[1] which had its origins in Persia from where the style migrated to India, Egypt and North Africa[2] and the Turkish kilij. It was adopted in the 19th century by several Western militaries, including the French Army, British Army and the United States Marine Corps. Although some genuine Ottoman sabres were used by Westerners, most "mameluke sabres" were manufactured in Europe or America; their hilts were very similar in form to the Ottoman prototype, but their blades tended to be longer, narrower and less curved than those of the true kilij, while being wider and also less curved than the Persian shamshir. In short, the hilt retained its original shape and the blade tended to resemble the blade-form typical of contemporary Western military sabres. The Mameluke sword remains the ceremonial side arm for some units to this day.

United States Marine Corps

Today's U.S. Marine Corps officers' Mameluke sword closely resembles those first worn in 1826.
Marine Corps history states that a sword of this type was presented to Marine First Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon by the Ottoman Empire viceroy, Prince Hamet, on December 8, 1805, during the First Barbary War, as a gesture of respect and praise for the Marines' actions at the Battle of Derne.[3] Upon his return to the United States, the state of Virginia presented him with a silver-hilted sword featuring an eaglehead hilt and a curved blade modeled after the original Mameluke sword given him by Hamet. Its blade is inscribed with his name and a commemoration of the Battle of Tripoli Harbor.[4]
Perhaps due to the Marines' distinguished record during this campaign, including the capture of the Tripolitan city of Derna after a long and dangerous desert march, Marine Corps Commandant Archibald Henderson adopted the Mameluke sword in 1825 for wear by Marine officers. After initial distribution in 1826, Mameluke swords have been worn except for the years 1859-75 (when Marine officers were required to wear the U.S. Model 1850 Army foot officers' sword), and a brief period when swords were suspended during World War II. Since that time, Mameluke swords have been worn by Marine officers in a continuing tradition to the present day.[5]

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mameluke_sword

The reason sabres were adopted was because nobody any longer wore armor... The Ottomans going up against properly armored foes, even 13th century Europeans and they would've been destroyed. As far as I know, the Ottomans attacked and died in hordes trying to take Belgrade, to the point that the Serbs or whoever lived there no longer had any men because they were worn down after all the battles. That's when the Ottomans beat them.         Cossacks attacked the Ottomans for recreation for fucks sake, do you really think they were considered a superpower? Lol!

The way a saber works is that you swipe it after you make contact with your target to deepen/severe the wound, but that would only work against sobs without some proppa' steel protecting them.
And sabers had been around for thousands of years... The Ottomans didn't introduce them to the Russians, the mongols did.

[Bobthehero]

Cossacks attacked the Ottomans for recreation for fucks sake, do you really think they were considered a superpower? Lol!

You had that history teacher too?

[TehSoviet]

You had that history teacher too?

The senile racist Italian that sells counterfeit Prada bags? Yeah.

[Bobthehero]

Well he wasnt Italian, and AFAIK it was the same gy who said Italians were good at making Olive Oil and Pizza, not war, while talking about the war of 1885. And then said how everyone fought the Ottoman when they needed an easy victory or to test new armies/weapons.