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Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« on: July 29, 2012, 05:00:12 pm »
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Didn't really want to label this as a bug, cause it might be intended, but here goes.

Kicking is a very powerful thing, especially in a 1 vs 1. A simple press to a button to an opponent that gets close, gives you a free hit. When someone masters this, it gets really strong, look at Hearst. Very strong things need a counter. In the case of kicking its stabbing. Someone who kicks can't block down, so if you skillfully anticipate the kick you do a stab. There, you save yourself from getting kicked and hit the enemy.

At least so I thought. Turns out you can actually block stabs if you block down before you start the kick. I duelled Hearst, anticipated the kick correctly three times, he blocked two times during his kick. Which leaves a very strong feature, kicking, without a reliable counter. Which, when combined with a long weapon and good range control, renders it OP as fuck. Again, look at Hearst.

So I hope the devs can disable someone from down blocking while kicking completely, and not just in some occasions. So spamming kicks is not something that can be done with little disadvantage.

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 05:43:18 pm »
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Seems legit.
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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 05:46:27 pm »
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Old, already announced that kick will lose blocking completely (and gain some range/turning).

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 05:46:58 pm »
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Old, already announced that kick will lose blocking completely (and gain some range/turning).

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 05:48:54 pm »
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Old, already announced that kick will lose blocking completely (and gain some range/turning).
Sounds good, as long as it weakens kicks I'm okay with anything.

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 05:56:06 pm »
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Sounds good, as long as it weakens kicks I'm okay with anything.
Gaining range and turning ability doesn't sound like weakening it ;)
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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 05:58:49 pm »
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More effective but riskier.

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2012, 06:01:34 pm »
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If you remove the ability to block while kicking, can you also make it where the person who is kicked swing cancels.
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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 07:02:37 pm »
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The kick already has the same range as the stab of my katana, it doesn't need to be buffed in any way, only nerfed.

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2012, 08:06:16 pm »
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The kick already has the same range as the stab of my katana, it doesn't need to be buffed in any way, only nerfed.

Your katana has 50 weapon length while stabbing? Interesting.

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2012, 08:26:22 pm »
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The kick already has the same range as the stab of my katana, it doesn't need to be buffed in any way, only nerfed.

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 08:47:01 pm »
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Old, already announced that kick will lose blocking completely (and gain some range/turning).

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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 08:49:44 pm »
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I'm not sure if my post made sence, did it?
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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 08:54:50 pm »
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Old, already announced that kick will lose blocking completely (and gain some range/turning).

Also it seems that in cRPG that kick target seems small. I can't word it very well. There's been many times when my kick will hit them near the arm but just go through, it seems like you have to kick directly in their balls for it to work.
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Re: Fix stabbing someone who kicks
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 09:17:51 pm »
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Also it seems that in cRPG that kick target seems small. I can't word it very well. There's been many times when my kick will hit them near the arm but just go through, it seems like you have to kick directly in their balls for it to work.

Kick is hardcoded, it's exactly the same in Native.