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Ladder Question
« on: July 26, 2012, 03:21:24 am »
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I'm not calling for any bans or reversed decisions or anything, but what exactly determines a "sky ladder"?
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My team and I thought these were skyladders but an admin told us otherwise.

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2012, 11:00:30 am »
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It must be supported.

So basically laddering off a ladder into the sky = sky ladder/horse shit.

I think it should also extend to magical ladders that have over 50% of there length hanging into the sky. It's unrealistic and stupid.

Ladders should have to be reasonably supported and ladder spamming in strat battles to try and stop ladders from being placed is bullshit and people should be banned.

During this battle the archer on the center tower were placing ladders along the tops of the walls in an effort to cause any ladders being placed to explode when they touched it, it didn't work because we couldn't get that high and didn't have enough ladders to be able to really get up there and fuck them up and the one time we did I only had one inf with me and we got nailed pretty quick.

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 02:11:12 pm »
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That castle is so small and compact it makes sieging tricky.
Lag sucked hard.
Ladders seemed highly questionable to me since they were all over the sky, but admins didn't seem to take issue at the time.

Either way it was a fun fight once we were able to actually get on the walls.
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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2012, 03:36:33 pm »
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I'm not calling for any bans or reversed decisions or anything, but what exactly determines a "sky ladder"?
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My team and I thought these were skyladders but an admin told us otherwise.

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2012, 03:38:22 pm »
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I'm not calling for any bans or reversed decisions or anything, but what exactly determines a "sky ladder"?
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My team and I thought these were skyladders but an admin told us otherwise.

By definition of Skyladder, I can CLEARLY see one. One ladder based off a ladder using another as support right in the center of the SS too. The one in the bottom right of screen looks really iffy too. Barely ANY of the ladder is on the wall. Also those 2 ladders that are floating straight Up should ALSO be considered skyladders as they only use ANOTHER ladder for their support.

Also why do you have A SS of adyrens?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2012, 03:41:53 pm by Lt_Anders »
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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2012, 07:23:22 pm »
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Several people were kicked/banned for the one or two you can see in the picture below, as there were two or three cases of it near the end of the siege.

cmp was there as well, so if you have any complaints about the definition of "sky ladders" please send him a pm by clicking here.

In any case enough about sky ladders, lets bring back ladderpulting!
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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2012, 09:23:40 pm »
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Several people were kicked/banned for the one or two you can see in the picture below, as there were two or three cases of it near the end of the siege.

cmp was there as well, so if you have any complaints about the definition of "sky ladders" please send him a pm by clicking here.

In any case enough about sky ladders, lets bring back ladderpulting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgqMnNJzHrI&feature=relmfu
If you read my post, you noticed that I was asking a question, not asking for bans. So before you shrug it off and tell me to complain to someone, maybe you just answer the question.

Btw only one person was kicked while I was in the server.

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2012, 09:31:59 pm »
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From what I understand of policy, this is the general rule:

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(note that I may be out of date or simply incorrect)

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2012, 09:40:37 pm »
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If you read my post, you noticed that I was asking a question, not asking for bans. So before you shrug it off and tell me to complain to someone, maybe you just answer the question.

Btw only one person was kicked while I was in the server.

Sorry I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to the post above mine.

A sky ladder as previously stated is any ladder that is soley supported by another ladder.
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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2012, 10:00:10 pm »
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From what I understand of policy, this is the general rule:

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(note that I may be out of date or simply incorrect)

That's my impression too.

I think a skyladder can be defined as "any ladder that has no part touching the ground or a structure".  Even if it's 99% hanging in the air it's okay as long as that last 1% is touching something solid on the map.

During one of those sieges I threw a ladder from one tower to another and rather than fall flat as I intended, the far side stopped about 4 meters in the air above where it should have landed and hung there, incidentally making it an ideal way to reach the far tower without any chance for the defenders to break the ladder from there.  Some called it a sky ladder but by my PhantomZero's definition, it was legal -- it was anchored to the structure.  Not my fault the engine decided to stop the far end 4 meters in the air!

The admins didn't say anything but some over-enthusiastic Judge Dredd types broke it anyway.  :-p

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012, 10:28:34 pm »
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I think a skyladder can be defined as "any ladder that has no part touching the ground or a structure".  Even if it's 99% hanging in the air it's okay as long as that last 1% is touching something solid on the map.


I think it has to be this way, since most players here arent physicists and as such are not able to judge what is actually possible and not. 

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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012, 10:48:30 pm »
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I think it should also extend to magical ladders that have over 50% of there length hanging into the sky. It's unrealistic
I think the illegal ladder rule should also extend to something like this. Any ladder that doesn't have a second support at the midpoint or farther up the ladder should be illegal IMO.
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Re: Ladder Question
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2012, 01:06:44 am »
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Sorry I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to the post above mine.

A sky ladder as previously stated is any ladder that is soley supported by another ladder.
Jesus christ never respond to Anders he's a total fucking troll. I take back what I said.

I think the illegal ladder rule should also extend to something like this. Any ladder that doesn't have a second support at the midpoint or farther up the ladder should be illegal IMO.
And this makes more sense to me, but rules are rules and I accept that.