Polearms reach VS 2h

[Daniisme]

For what iv seen from playing both of them I noticed that 2h is way overeach.

And im not talking about stabs only the swings reach some how is longer then my elegent poleaxe,a katana was like 1.70 meters from me and the guy was quite fast so i was walking back a bit and he reached me.....

Im the only 1 seen this?

[Nightingale]

Pole arms the animation has you holding the middle of the weapon. Two-handed weapons the animation your holding the hilt, meaning 132 reach but your holding the center of the shaft while the katana user is holding the end.... but still if your being out reached by a katana with a pole axe something is wrong. Perhaps it was a Nodachii?

I am sure someone else could explain it with more details.

[Zerran]

OP is correct, 2H weapons get a massive reach bonus on all attacks. Polearms get atrocious reach bonuses on their swings, and even worse reach on their thrust.

Katana can't outreach a poleaxe unless your timing was a bit bad, but a nodachi can do so very easily (and even then, the katana is a lot closer to the reach of a poleaxe then it should be).

[The_Bloody_Nine]

so even if some might say you have a point there, first you make a thread in suggestions and then nearly the same in General discussion? and outranged by a katana? makes you look like a 2h hater and weakens your argument, imo.

2H weapons get a massive reach bonus on all attacks.

this is getting ridiculous.

[Zerran]

this is getting ridiculous.

How so? Unless I'm mistaken, both tests done regarding reach concluded that 2H animations give some big reach bonuses. Even disregarding those, go grab a bec and tell me you have the same reach as a nodachi. I agree that a katana can't outreach a poleaxe, but a 2H of the same "length" as a polearm WILL outreach it.

[Count_Adhamar]

How so? Unless I'm mistaken, both tests done regarding reach concluded that 2H animations give some big reach bonuses. Even disregarding those, go grab a bec and tell me you have the same reach as a nodachi. I agree that a katana can't outreach a poleaxe, but a 2H of the same "length" as a polearm WILL outreach it.

Yeah we don't need research to show 2h animations give reach bonuses, it's pretty obvious. But what do you expect? The grip of the 2h is at the base of the blade, the polearm near the middle. You want the bec to have the same reach as a nodachi? Lol. Two handers of the same length as a polearm will outreach it, yeah, as they should due to where the weapons are held. I don't know what you're trying to achieve here, besides wanting polearms to outreach 2hers no matter of where they're gripped. Please, you might want to "research" how different weapons should be held.

[Ptolemy]

A katana will never out-reach a polearm (at least not a real polearm, rather than a spear) and nodachi doesn't have a stab anymore, so that can't out-stab anything.

The greatswords however, yes, they are stab OP, massively.

[sF_Guardian]

A katana will never out-reach a polearm (at least not a real polearm, rather than a spear) and nodachi doesn't have a stab anymore, so that can't out-stab anything.

The greatswords however, yes, they are stab OP, massively.

They are talkin about reach differences in sideswing animations (and theyre huge).

[Youhou]

Most of these kind of threads comes from players who aren't used to game mechanics. Katana will never outreach poleaxe. In your case it either wasn't katana or you had bad timing. Also polearms and 2hs are hold differently and if you think 1,7 meters isn't really long distance between you and fast katana player.

[_Sebastian_]

The weapon reach is measured from the middle of the right hand.

And if you compare the 2h- with the polearm swing animations, you will see that the distance between the characters center position and the position of the right hand is bigger on 2h swings.
So the reach is also bigger on 2h weapons.

[Sagar]

A katana will never out-reach a polearm (at least not a real polearm, rather than a spear) and nodachi doesn't have a stab anymore, so that can't out-stab anything.

The greatswords however, yes, they are stab OP, massively.

Your every post is whining how European swords are OP over katana, nodachi and all other eastern weaboo toys. Suck it up, European swords are superior in real life as well as in the game.

[korppis]

A katana will never out-reach a polearm (at least not a real polearm, rather than a spear) and nodachi doesn't have a stab anymore, so that can't out-stab anything.

The greatswords however, yes, they are stab OP, massively.

Actually it can get surprisingly close. I tried katana vs bec with a friend in duel once, and they have almost perfectly even side swings. The bec maybe 1 or 2 worth of length more but it means nothing. Bec has 120 length on paper and katana 95 so it was very surprising... but since it's shortest pole the rest should out-reach katana easily.

[beniliusbob]

It is not a coincidence that most of the best players (on NA, anyway) fight with greatswords of one kind or another. Greatswords totally rule.

So yeah if anyone wants my +2 German Poleaxe for a +2 Danish Greatsword...

[TurmoilTom]

2h isn't op

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It's just the only thing that hasn't been nerfed to the state of being underpowered.

[CrazyCracka420]

It is not a coincidence that most of the best players (on NA, anyway) fight with greatswords of one kind or another. Greatswords totally rule.

So yeah if anyone wants my +2 German Poleaxe for a +2 Danish Greatsword...

Just depends.  Yes there's a lot of great sword wielders who can top the scoreboards, but I've seen the same from good pikemen, lancer cav, and even archers. 

I'm sure you've all heard the saying, it's not the tool, it's how you use it.