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Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« on: July 23, 2012, 02:51:31 pm »
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Two months ago I've started with trading again. During that time I've nearly doubled amount of looms and earned couple millions of gold.

Many will find this repuslive but I didn't cheat anyone. I just understand how marketplace works and know how to get best deals for myself.

During that time I've also noticed something interesting.

Best deals I've had and also people I'm regularly doing business with are mostly American or Chinese players.

I've also noticed that NA players seem to have more looms, looking at marketplace sell section on forums, and their prices are realistic and they know the value of items.

On the other hand, I've noticed that EU player either have little amount of looms or they are trading looms for the whole clan.

EU players have unrealistic prices and I rarely see them trading stuff, it's always the same.

What's your opinion on this topic?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2012, 03:51:52 pm by Leshma »

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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 02:53:04 pm »
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NA have Poophammer , that's all

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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 02:57:30 pm »
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In my opinion you are bored and try to write shit about whatever comes to your mind. Just like me

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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 03:05:45 pm »
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Inb4 EU QQ.

Also Asia got the most looms and gold. Nuff said.
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 03:07:59 pm »
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Well, I`m an EU player and trader, tripled my amounth of looms (6 out of 2) and gave 3 looms away.
I just trade cuz I deleted my old char and want looms again, but I begin to be addicted to trading :D
I made many people happy and had some luck too, last guy I made happy
was Massassin, now ive his +3 Long Dagger :)
I think I did 50/50 trades with NA/EU and at least one trade with a chinese guy.
Ive seen unrealistic prices from NA and EU players and honestly didn`t notice a major difference.
I just noticed that young players seem like "overvalueing" their Items, I rather trade with old players.
But yeah, some players just demand too high prices cuz thei dont really want to trade, and if just for a very good
offer, which I can completely understand and have no probs with.

Imo this is just another silly NA vs EU topic.
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 03:16:41 pm »
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I'm very bad at this trading stuff as I'm very low on patience.. Just accept the deal that offers the most money and you'll win. Classes are seasonal so you'll get your stuff traded if you're just willing to give it a time(ofc +3 are the easiest to trade and +2 the hardest).
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 03:19:35 pm »
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It's because Europeans, living in socialist hellholes in government housing, have no true concept of the glory of the free market us True Blue American Heroes do. Your average German sees, say, a loaf of bread for 10 bucks on the market and says "VHAT? I NO HAFF WAIT BREAD LINE?" and immediately buys it. Your average American, using his vast scientific knowledge thoroughly examines the bread and says "This bread is from Eastern Europe, and like all things Eastern European is wormy". The CRPG market works the same way.
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 03:20:16 pm »
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I have 5 +3 items and 2 +1 items and below 200k gold. And I'm gen 15 by now, so 14 loompoints = 4 +3 items and 1 +1 item. I lost a lot when I just accepted a trade when I had no patience to wait for a better deal. I often also paid a top and accepted some bad deals, one for example for my clan, so bagge could get the rus bow +3 recently. =)

After all I'm fine with what I have as too much gold and any looms aren't really needed to play.
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 03:20:52 pm »
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Imo this is just another silly NA vs EU topic.

It's about marketplace economy so I don't think it will assplode like k/d epeen NA vs EU threads. Unless someone comes here with RL talk how american economy is OP or how EU economy is better etc.

Edit: Too late :lol:

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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 03:23:00 pm »
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It's about marketplace economy so I don't think it will assplode like k/d epeen NA vs EU threads. Unless someone comes here with RL talk how american economy is OP or how EU economy is better etc.

Edit: Too late :lol:

Thats what I meant Leshma, I didn`t criticize your intention but there are far too many trolls around ;-)
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2012, 03:23:00 pm »
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It's because Europeans, living in socialist hellholes in government housing, have no true concept of the glory of the free market us True Blue American Heroes do. Your average German sees, say, a loaf of bread for 10 bucks on the market and says "VHAT? I NO HAFF WAIT BREAD LINE?" and immediately buys it. Your average American, using his vast scientific knowledge thoroughly examines the bread and says "This bread is from Eastern Europe, and like all things Eastern European is wormy". The CRPG market works the same way.

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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2012, 03:26:17 pm »
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I've got 40 gens of looms (12 +3s, 1 +2, 2 +1s), and being gen 10, I would think that's pretty good. :)

The market is more about patience and luck than knowing the prices. Just wait for a good deal to come pop up and nail it.

A few days back I traded my loompoint and 20k for a +2 Light Kuyak. Never talked to the guy discussing the trade or anything. The trade popped up on the market and I just happened to get to it first.

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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2012, 03:40:57 pm »
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Many will find this repuslive but I didn't cheap anyone. I just understand how marketplace works and know how to get best deals for myself.

Actually if you want to make money on the marketplace, "cheaping" someone is exactly what you have to do. Are you telling me you made gold by buying heirlooms for exactly what they are worth (in your opinion) then reselling them for the exact same price (i.e, what you think they are worth)? Of course not. Just like in RL the traders and speculators provide exactly nothing of worth, no labour and no resources beyond basically fucking over their "customers". They "create" wealth out of other people's labour then tell themselves they are titans of industry, instead of the worthless leeches they are.
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 03:42:46 pm »
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The market is more about patience

This..

Not many people get it an does stupid trades where they pay 150k or 50k for trading items of the same value.

The only reason i made some gold an items on the market is because i wait for people to take my offers or not trade at all i only trade with gold if the item i want rid of is almost impossible to trade...

PRO TIP dont pay 50k on top when u wanna try out a new set of gloves or armor just wait until someone does the deal without gold involved.

Ive made tons of gold fx trading my light kuyak to a heavy one without gold an then trade the same armor back an forth while demanding gold at the sametime its stupid people fall for it.
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Re: Trading on marketplace (EU vs NA vs ASIA)
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 03:43:26 pm »
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i am not patient to trade,and i don't realy know what would i do with some shitty items like some ppl have.
Yeah you have 20 looms,but half of them are pure shit that you bought realy cheap (daggers,tridents,silly hats,very weak armorslike dresses).
I have 4mw items that i think are very uselful and they worth a lot more to me then half of things you earned trading.
I lost arround 800k gold in trading,but i earned 2-3 loompoints. There are always some offers like i give you +2 item,and someone give me +3 item for it.
I got free gen.