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Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« on: July 22, 2012, 04:12:20 pm »
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Add a shield bash and give it a knock-down chance. It'd be great fun for sieges when you're defending a choke point and it could simply replace the kick when you have a shield - it sure is a lot more realistic than kicking. Everyone can kick as it is now, so why not boost the "stun-move" a bit for those who could use it? Of course it should only work for some of the heavier shields and it could be nice if it all depended on your power strike.

I like this animation and I am confident that it could do the trick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMwkYVO9t4

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 04:14:11 pm »
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-1 for knockdown chance, will -2 it if you also believe you should block while bashing.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 04:18:41 pm »
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If it replaces kick, fine.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 04:20:58 pm »
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I'm not sure if I like this, actually I really doubt it. Especially because if it really should replace the kicks, it is unfair for anyone not having a shield. Regarding the kicks currently, it is really balanced and fair for anyone. It should be easy to avoid being kicked in most situations (unless your back and sides are blocked).
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2012, 04:32:20 pm »
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Shielders shouldn't get a super kick with knockdown, while blocking all directions when they "kick".

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2012, 05:53:57 pm »
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While wielding a shield use "E" to shield bash, shielders can't kick then, and make a succesfull shield bash like polestagger.

If im right about polestagger it stunned the opponent for a moment?

With VERY limited range im cool with it.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2012, 05:56:55 pm »
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Shielders are already hard to come by, don't give them an additional advantage.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2012, 06:25:06 pm »
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Regarding the kicks currently, it is really balanced and fair for anyone.

Disagree. You cant block block with a shield directly after kicking. This makes shielders very vulnerable when they kick. Other classes like 2hander can still block right after they kick.

This has been suggested a lot already, still i say: yes please!
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2012, 06:33:23 pm »
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Disagree. You cant block block with a shield directly after kicking. This makes shielders very vulnerable when they kick. Other classes like 2hander can still block right after they kick.

This has been suggested a lot already, still i say: yes please!

The kick is supposed to be a high-risk action. It renders every class immobile for a while and it's easy to sidestep someone and hit them out of their block radius, after they miss their kick. And even non-shielders lose their ability to down-block.

What I don't want to see is a shield wall just spamming their new kick that allows them to block and do it with no penalty at all.


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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2012, 06:35:42 pm »
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The kick is supposed to be a high-risk action. It renders every class immobile for a while and it's easy to sidestep someone and hit them out of their block radius, after they miss their kick. And even non-shielders lose their ability to down-block.

What I don't want to see is a shield wall just spamming their new kick that allows them to block and do it with no penalty at all.

Kick isnt so risky for 2handers... And perhaps kick will beat shieldbash or something? If you kick someone that performs a shieldbash the kicker wins?
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 06:38:55 pm »
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Kick isnt so risky for 2handers...

It's plenty risky. With a kick, you must put your shield to the side and block with your weapon only. Which is chamberblocking in the game.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2012, 06:47:49 pm »
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It's plenty risky. With a kick, you must put your shield to the side and block with your weapon only. Which is chamberblocking in the game.

Im confused, I said its not very risky for a 2hander to kick. How does this involve putting your shield to the side and chamber?
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 06:51:11 pm »
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Im confused, I said its not very risky for a 2hander to kick. How does this involve putting your shield to the side and chamber?

I said that it's plenty risky. I've lost a lot of duels that way.

Of course 2h don't usually have shields when they fight (some do that with the longsword and the katana, though). I was talking about what a shielder can do when they kick.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2012, 07:20:02 pm »
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While wielding a shield use "E" to shield bash, shielders can't kick then, and make a succesfull shield bash like polestagger.

If im right about polestagger it stunned the opponent for a moment?

With VERY limited range im cool with it.

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i like this idea .

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2012, 07:25:49 pm »
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Dont think a shieldbash is needed.

Would be nice for the style but would also need carefully tweaking
and a very good animation so I`d say it`s not worth the effort.

(And it was suggested over 9000 times)
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