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Simply remove all fiefs from strategus and let players build them like this http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32638.0.html

Different buildings could give different bonuses, for instance houses increases population and blacksmith allows you to craft weapons. All of those buildings should be destructible during sieges to prevent abusing them. The cost to build them could be just money or if taken one step further, resources such as wood, stone etc. You could also have two different tiers of buildings; permanent (higher efficiency but you couldn't move them) and tents buildings (lower efficiency but you could pack them) which would allow those rogue bands have their little fiefs too, especially if they were very hard to see normally on strategus map unless you are in the faction. Also allowing to burn the fief when you conquer it would not only generate a lot of drama but a real incentive to defend them instead of just leaving them empty like now.

Advantages
- No more not enough fiefs -complaints since everyone can just build one
- Strategus map can be easily changed since you don't have to think about making new scenes for every new fief
- Even the smallest clans can have their own fief
- No more abusing AI fiefs in any way
- We can have truly unique castles and cities
- Allows more roleplaying

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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 09:00:31 pm »
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Cmon Harald,

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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 09:30:22 pm »
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i support this thread
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 09:30:44 pm »
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 09:33:35 pm »
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Will take a lot of supervising from admins to prevent and punish abuse the new features again, but im 100% for it!
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 06:35:44 am »
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A truly excellent idea.

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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 08:08:48 am »
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if this goes through i promisse not to build walls around my village in 20 levels :D
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 09:48:28 am »
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if this goes through i promisse not to build walls around my village in 20 levels :D

Indeed, lets set the max at 18
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2012, 09:50:07 am »
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if this goes through i promisse not to build walls around my village in 20 levels :D

Naturally - there should be building limitations so you can't create abominations otherwise I'm sure that Greys or Vodka-drinkers would find a way to legitimately build impenetrable Fortifications while at the same time they would be able to somehow get around every defense you make, no matter its quality. Maybe this is a task too big for the current version of the game ?
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2012, 10:14:12 am »
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This might work if every fief gets checked by someone before it can be used... Use preset fief untill you made a new one which gets approved...

Would mean we need a fief check team. This shouldn't be admins, they r not there for checking maps for exploits, just a group of players who feel like volunteering for this (me for instance).
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2012, 10:41:04 am »
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Or a group of beta testers.

I nominate Kafein.
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 10:42:14 am »
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If something like this gets implemented (and I already stated I like the idea in itself), it would have to work without checking, only with computable rules. Everything else would create even more drama.
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 10:51:01 am »
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I like the idea and this should really sandbox the game up

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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 10:59:20 am »
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If something like this gets implemented (and I already stated I like the idea in itself), it would have to work without checking, only with rules.

Why?

Current Strat has at least minimal amount of moderation.

I guess if you make a script that is 100% fool proof, you wouldn't even need rules.
But then again if you have rules, people can report fiefs who have intentionally problemized any attack by weirdly placed buildings and spawns etc(another tricky thing, people will obv place good defender spawns but attacker's? Maybe if you had a finished map template with 12-15 spawns in a wedge that cannot be tampered with)

Anyway, I hope this gets implemented because it's a potentially awesome idea.
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Re: Remove all pre-built fiefs from strategus and let players build them
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2012, 11:07:26 am »
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it's impossible to moderate something like this. Think about the problems with banner alone. And that does not make a gameplay difference.

Then think about the drama with a clear case of a strat battle where 3 defenders camped on an unreachable roof with no tickets left and getting kicked - there was several threads about that, and yet, still no gameplay difference.

Then think about admins telling people what's ok to build and what not - with a huge gameplay impact.

Count me out :)