Bring Back Siege "Manual" Ladders

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

Me personally made the game of siege more enjoyable.  I'd rather have no permanent ladders and manual ladders. 

[Rhekimos]

The broken games with lots of ladders were actually fun, faster paced and dynamic. I suggest we reduce defender spawn timer a bit and bring back ladders to siege.

[Turboflex]

most maps were undefendable with those, you basically could bypass all defender chokes right at the beginning, instead of having to use map.

[ArysOakheart]

Bring back ladders! It will help us practice for true strat siege battles!

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

most maps were undefendable with those, you basically could bypass all defender chokes right at the beginning, instead of having to use map.

Easy solution, make maps harder to take.  The siege maps already are shitty and unbalanced anyway.  Solved.

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

The broken games with lots of ladders were actually fun, faster paced and dynamic. I suggest we reduce defender spawn timer a bit and bring back ladders to siege.

This is so true, sneaking in back ways was actually fun.  That happens in real sieges and makes the game feel more "dynamic" like he said.

[Everkistus]

I agree 100%.

[MarktpLatz]

It´s also very annoying to get smashed every time you reach the end of a ladder...
Being a mauler is easy business these days since you just have to find a good spot, and, if there´s a pikemam next to you, you´ll hardly get killed.
This would get "fixed" if they would add the manual ladders again.

I agree 100%.

nothing to add

[Dionysus]

I am confused. What is a "manual" ladder?

EDIT: I'm assuming this is some sort of player-placed ladder? If so, that would be great for gameplay.

[Korgoth]

I am confused. What is a "manual" ladder?

EDIT: I'm assuming this is some sort of player-placed ladder? If so, that would be great for gameplay.

Yes it is a player placed ladder which were in seige and battle but were taken out.

I understood why they were taken out of battle, archers camping roofs were fucking annoying. It doesn't make much sense taking them out of seige, one thing I would like to see changed is ladders should auto break if placed on top of another ladder, I hated it in seige when people would stack ladders above the walls and drop down.

[Bryggan]

The other annoying thing about ladders in siege was people leaning them up against roofs where the defenders couldn't climb up to.  Then suddenly it was raining men.  If it was just smaller ladders that could only reach the curtain wall, that'd be ok.  Just none of those that go six storeys above the curtainwall, then another that spans the courtyard to some tower, followed by one more that lands right above the flag.

Perhaps if the ladder is less that 45 degrees it breaks?  Then all the devs have to do is redo the ladder mechanics and redesign all the castles and then we're laughing!

[Digglez]

Siege without deployable ladders is boring as shit.  However needs to be a limit on the number of ladders that attackers/defenders can place.  I think 8 is high, something like 4-6 would be good.
Would be even better if EVERY indestructible map ladder was REMOVED and attackers HAD to use ladders.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,27265.msg396894.html#msg396894

[Keslord]

100 agree.

Attackers having manual ladders was one of C-rpg's main selling points when i started over a year ago.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

It's on the way ladies, take some Valium and have your wombs checked.

I've got a couple nice maps almost ready to be released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OlCnPKr4Q8

[Elmuri]

Yeah siege was much funnier with ladders, just make them have high upkeep to reduce spamming (or some other limit, like everyone could spawn only one time with ladders each round)