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[Molly]

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I admit my bias is great, but it's mostly deliberate trolling of their carebearing circle-jerking mafia.
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Love that part 

[Gnjus]

Actually the more Leshma writes on this forum the more I am open to the idea that he is in fact a woman. The level of cognitive dissonance, illogical ranting and undeserved self-regard are pretty convincing.

I hate to disappoint an old friend like you Bloby but he's not a female. We've heard his sexy voice on TS. There is, however, a well known saying that medicine is still tapping in the dark when it comes to certain "issues" so...... 

[Leshma]

Ethnic bans, general hate.

Huh? I never said to ban Polish/Russian players. I said ban Grey Order/Druzhina. That's different thing. Actually banning their leaders is the right thing but chadz couldn't force himself to do that.

And now, you're even denying that 100 cd key thing and pretty much everything GO did in the past ever happened. That we're delusional.

[Leshma]

He was caught account sharing with his clan in the last Strategus round. It was quite widespread among different groups, and chadz decided to let it go with a general warning for everybody. Harpag was the only one who got named because it was the largest case, and so apparently a lot of people suspect he's still doing it, and we're getting hit with guilt by association.

So, this is now official version of that incident

Why I'm even bothering...

Enjoy your Strat UIF.

Last words:

Unlike Panos who was playing Strat on his own, unlike most of you who are in clans which are "winning" Strat (okiN, chadz, cmp, Cooties: Nordmen; Paul: 22nd; Kalp: Grey Order), I'm not playing Stategus and therefore have no secret agenda. Just want to see fair playground without intrigue, that is all. But if you like it that way, keep it that way.

[okiN]

If the official version was different at any point, nobody told me about it.

[Everkistus]

Add some cool shit to strategus, don't make the economy mandatory, make raising armies easier. Reset Strategus. Then everyone has big cool battles which give a lot of XP. Everyone has fun.

As to Leshma, some Fallens indeed lost interest in strat after the devs punished us for using the glitch once (to those who don't know, we attacked our own village so we gain a day of extra time), and we never rose to a kind of powerhouse we once were because of people who lost interest and still don't play. However, it was only fair and just that we got punished, and I fully support their funny and innovative way of doing it. Thing is, we aren't the only ones who have glitched in this game, but we are the only ones who got punished so far. As you probably can understand, it has a way of demoralizing people.

tl;dr:
Punishing all exploiters: good
Pushing only one exploiter and letting others slip: not good.

[Oberyn]

To be fair, Harpag DID try to weasel his way out of it pretending that it was only because his brother or cousin or whatever bullshit he made up was playing on the same IP. In fact he made a somewhat large post, all self-righteous and angry as if he had no idea why he would possibly be banned for multi-keys from the same IP, and chadz had to slap him down like the lying cunt he is. It really didn't help him or people's perception of the clan.


Edit: Harpag, when caught:

If that be the reason, I protest and demand an immediate unban.

Tell me how you came to such a sick idea? I play this game for over a year, but a week or maybe two weeks ago, I persuaded housemate to a common game (he only looked earlier) - the effect - I just discovered the ban. Unban me and him, or go to hell.

Our whole house supports one router - even I do not know how many computers the router supports. This is what you are doing is a serious abuse.

chadz's response:

Just for the record- last round more than 100 greys logged in from one IP. Over one hundred warband keys from a single household. Your fucked up sense of fairness is what forces us to take steps like this in the first place. So would you kindly get rid of this attitude?

Yeah, he is so contrite and helpful, how could people possibly believe that such a wonderful person could ever lie about cheating.

[Molly]

If the official version was different at any point, nobody told me about it.

Well, using 100 cd keys from the same IP sounds different than "account sharing on a larger scale". Again, it's about perception.

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Thing is, we aren't the only ones who have glitched in this game, but we are the only ones who got punished so far. As you probably can understand, it has a way of demoralizing people.

tl;dr:
Punishing all exploiters: good
Pushing only one exploiter and letting others slip: not good.

QFT.

[Teeth]

Add some cool shit to strategus, don't make the economy mandatory, make raising armies easier. Reset Strategus. Then everyone has big cool battles which give a lot of XP. Everyone has fun.

That is where Grey Order and Druzhina come to crash the party. It's probably related to their culture, but they really want to win, bad. At all costs really. Now a bit of competivity is ofcourse not wrong, but in their case their need to win kills all good sportsmanship.

Now I wasn't there in the first strat, but I read the forum and some recap people did while waiting for the second strat, it seemed a lot more fun. People were playing the battles, had a lot of fun, congratulated the other party with their victory. They did all kinds of roleplaying stuff, were respectful to eachother. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Then Druzhina came and this mentality got lost, because Druzhina doesn't care for respect, sportsmanship and fun, but only for victory. To keep up with them the other clans had to approach strat like that too, and voila, there is the shithole we now call strat. Grey Order pretty much upped this a notch. And the bug abusing and griefing, that would've probably never happened in strategus 1.

That is why I yelled blanket ban Poland and Russia for the next strat. This is ofcourse blatant generalization, but if its really something culture realed that creates this mentality that ruins the fun for the rest of us, its not really that crazy. Ofcourse its not ethically right to ban people for their culture, but this way I am never going to enjoy strategus and a whole lot of other people with me.

[Harpag]

Thanks for support from many people, but it's not necessary. It no longer looks like a competition in game, but a solid conflict. War on the map but also propaganda on the forum. Many people say that they are not interested Strategus, but this is nonsense. Their pain is great and this is evident. Using the old story from end of the first strategus, it's their only argument. By the way, I already told you about circumstances in which there was a accountsharing. During the first strategus, we collected the password, in case someone's sudden departure or computer failure. Therefore, the use of passwords was incidental, and in addition, it was before or during introduction of formal rules. With the advent of the new rule, all our activities related to accountsharing was immediately stopped. In addition, it should be noted that this was a common problem affected a substantial part of the whole community. My personal ban lasted about 15 - 20 minutes (just a mistake) and did not apply to this case. This was about account of my former roommate. At this time, even he is not here, so repeating the nonsense about 100 CD keys, it is only a sign of impotent rage of our enemy. Taking a adventure around several guys fighting for the defense, that's just another sign of frustration. Of course, I'm not surprised. What can say a completely destroyed enemy? Can say two things. Congratulations or throw us an unfair accusation. And these accusations do not arise from the belief that they have a reasonable basis, just for pure trolling. Instead of burning energy for trolling, I suggest you finally take a solid organization of people.
Of course I do not wish you luck, bastards

@ Everkistus - From what I remember, you have lost about 2k tickets, and extra you got a lot of fun with flying carpets, so don't do drama. Nothing big happened.

[Oberyn]

Here comes the damage control. Yes, too bad all the clans facing you just aren't as good at..."organization". I guess that's you're calling it these days.

Incidentally, the rule about accessing different Strat accounts was put in after the first Strat when it came to light that many clans did exactly that, just have the leaders controlling entire factions like puppet masters. Sorry for foiling your revisionist history.

[[ptx]]

And the bug abusing and griefing, that would've probably never happened in strategus 1.

Wrong, Strat1 was bug-abusing galore, simply because there were so many of them. Although those bugs were more about gaining advantage, rather than griefing opposition.

Also, heh, i remember the first town siege, that of Dhirim by Mercs. We had planned to use ladders to get both on the walls and the building roofs inside the castle, through places inaccessible to defenders, but, since we shared the plan with chadz an hour or two before the siege, he ninja-patched the game and gave defenders ladders too, foiling the plan

[Molly]

Thanks for support from many people, but it's not necessary. It no longer looks like a competition in game, but a solid conflict. War on the map but also propaganda on the forum. Many people say that they are not interested Strategus, but this is nonsense. Their pain is great and this is evident. Using the old story from end of the first strategus, it's their only argument. By the way, I already told you about circumstances in which there was a accountsharing. During the first strategus, we collected the password, in case someone's sudden departure or computer failure. Therefore, the use of passwords was incidental, and in addition, it was before or during introduction of formal rules. With the advent of the new rule, all our activities related to accountsharing was immediately stopped. In addition, it should be noted that this was a common problem affected a substantial part of the whole community. My personal ban lasted about 15 - 20 minutes (just a mistake) and did not apply to this case. This was about account of my former roommate. At this time, even he is not here, so repeating the nonsense about 100 CD keys, it is only a sign of impotent rage of our enemy. Taking a adventure around several guys fighting for the defense, that's just another sign of frustration. Of course, I'm not surprised. What can say a completely destroyed enemy? Can say two things. Congratulations or throw us an unfair accusation. And these accusations do not arise from the belief that they have a reasonable basis, just for pure trolling. Instead of burning energy for trolling, I suggest you finally take a solid organization of people.
Of course I do not wish you luck, bastards

@ Everkistus - From what I remember, you have lost about 2k tickets, and extra you got a lot of fun with flying carpets, so don't do drama. Nothing big happened.

I don't even... I may not know all facts but is it just me or does this sound like a totally fucked up mindset?

[Oberyn]

Wrong, Strat1 was bug-abusing galore, simply because there were so many of them. Although those bugs were more about gaining advantage, rather than griefing opposition.

Also, heh, i remember the first town siege, that of Dhirim by Mercs. We had planned to use ladders to get both on the walls and the building roofs inside the castle, through places inaccessible to defenders, but, since we shared the plan with chadz an hour or two before the siege, he ninja-patched the game and gave defenders ladders too, foiling the plan

It was such a good plan .

[[ptx]]

Regardless of what has been done or not, the style of Harpag's posts always gives me the impression that he is truly pathethic IRL.