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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2012, 10:53:03 pm »
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Nordmen hanging out with Grey Order doesn't make GO look any better in eyes of this community, but it makes Nordmen look worse.

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #121 on: July 15, 2012, 10:56:28 pm »
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Strategus is already dead, leave it as it is, everyone have already rage quit so do I, if you play there all your items and gear will just get takeover by bandits/ bad people, its just a waste of time tbh

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2012, 11:24:49 pm »
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Dedicated to Alpha and kinngrimm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxH9kHofuTU

Why do you think I'm supporting kinngrimm and his way of doing things?

It's was your own mistake to trust a man like kinngrimm. Don't blame others for that.

You're angry and I can understand why. But that lasts too long and that anger stops you from realizing that your new ally is even worse than those who betrayed you.

As long your clan is something in Strategus you'll be satisfied. You don't care about those players who are disgusted with current situation in Strategus. Last time I checked you were some kind of community manager. That kind of behavior is very selfish of you.

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2012, 11:27:53 pm »
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I don't believe we were allied with Wolves, ever.
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2012, 11:34:55 pm »
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Leshma doesn't get it.

Why do you think I'm supporting kinngrimm and his way of doing things?

It's was your own mistake to trust a man like kinngrimm. Don't blame others for that.

You're angry and I can understand why. But that lasts too long and that anger stops you from realizing that your new ally is even worse than those who betrayed you.

I never trusted kinngrimm to begin with, and I'm not angry. The point is that they created this situation themselves, and they have no right to complain. It's also very sad how many people are burning all their bridges over this.

As long your clan is something in Strategus you'll be satisfied. You don't care about those players who are disgusted with current situation in Strategus. Last time I checked you were some kind of community manager. That kind of behavior is very selfish of you.

You clearly don't understand our clan's motivations at all, or mine. But that's fine, or would be if you weren't making so much noise about them.

Anyway, I wonder how many of you people who are so "disgusted" with Strat would be any less so if we had allowed kinngrimm and Alpha to align their clans with UIF like they were trying to do, and how much better off the game would be in that case. :wink:
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #125 on: July 15, 2012, 11:38:02 pm »
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bahahaha
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #126 on: July 15, 2012, 11:47:52 pm »
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Don't worry, Cassie, I still love you. :o
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #127 on: July 16, 2012, 12:10:42 am »
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Leshma doesn't get it.

You don't get it. I'm not supporting any of the sides here, I'm talking about cheating and other bullshit we all have witnessed in past versions of Strat.

There are few scenarios for future Strategus:

Unrealistic - late IP ban for those who cheated and exploited strategus which will allow decent players to have fun.

Realistic - nothing will change, which means mod will slowly die because those who will only enjoy strat will be UIF coalition.

Desireable - decent part of this community will unite with just one goal in mind, to wipe out the cheaters and force them to search for new game to exploit.

I don't think that chadz and cmp can fix Strat in a way that exploiting becomes impossible. For me, leaving Harpag in the game isn't even an option. He has to go, one way or the other. That is the only way to fix Strat.

After that, certain things must be done and that's changing the nature of Strategus. Currently Strategus is the intrigue and treachery simulation just like games in Clausewitz engine (Sengoku, Crusader Kings II). Means that diplomacy, trade and backstabbing are the keys to success.

That's not very appealing to majority of people who play multiplayer cRPG mod. We want action so therefore I propose change from diplomacy/trade simulator of carebear alliances into FFA battlefield for clans. That means:

+ no clan alliances
+ big clans are major players, smaller clans (bellow 20 players) are mercenary or bandit factions and have different goals in Strat
+ fight for terittory until last clan is left and then scirmish best EU vs best NA clan

That will turn Strategus into dynamic game with clear goals which will be more familiar to cRPG players. If clans lack players, they should work on recruitment and advertising within cRPG. Alliances forbidden, as I said.

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #128 on: July 16, 2012, 12:16:04 am »
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Don't worry, Cassie, I still love you. :o

It's hard not to.
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #129 on: July 16, 2012, 01:29:58 am »
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Lulz this thread is so full of hate for Nordmen it's like they're the Hosps of Eu where everybody on the forums gets to bash on them when they're brought up. Such good drama glad I didn't miss any :)
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #130 on: July 16, 2012, 01:40:10 am »
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You got it all wrong. All the hate is directed to Grey Order and Druzhina, band of cheaters.

It looks like people are bashing Nords but that's because okiN is acting as UIF spokesperson...

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #131 on: July 16, 2012, 02:05:33 am »
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Well this thread has successfully created a lot of hate towards the Nordmen, even if it was the intention or not. I really feel the ill feelings are misplaced, but when people fail at what they do, I guess they need somebody to hate and blame for their own failures.

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #132 on: July 16, 2012, 02:18:21 am »
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I guess you need another scapegoat so you're blaming everything on me...

Nice try.

Hate towards Nordmen, if there is such a thing, started in that other locked thread which was created by Panos and where Panos was permabanned.

This thread only generated hate towards me, just because I wanted to open okiN's eyes but that didn't work.

Also, when I said "intervene" I meant wiping strat sooner than intended...

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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #133 on: July 16, 2012, 02:27:53 am »
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Gave up organising GK for strat when horses were so expensive. Fucked us over nice and good. Have they actually lowered the price of those yet? Not that I would ever go near strat with a barge pole again until something could be done about the sheer number of exploits ect that have plagued it plus the horrific carebearing.

I still vote for Russians to be split off and have their own strat whilst NA and rest of EU get merged back together with no real split like before.

As for Nordmen hate, number of admins ect in 1 clan will always draw some hate and suspicion. It's only natural. Not that that means they are doing anything. GO, they should have been permabanned a long time ago the amount they have exploited the various strats over time. Didn't even realise Harpag got away with the multi-accounting 100 accounts thing. That should have been banned for life. Devs go soft or something?

Also...why did Panos get banned again? I rarely support that guy but I saw that thread and there was nothing there worth perma-banning him on.
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Re: Next strategus
« Reply #134 on: July 16, 2012, 02:42:32 am »
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I guess you need another scapegoat so you're blaming everything on me...

Nice try.

Say what you want, everyone in Nords (and those outside of Nords who are not stupid) knows this is how it is, and probably will be everytime something in our favor / something bad for others happen.
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