My thoughts on classes

[_Tak_]

And yet here you are suggesting many nerfs to classes.  The only reason I can think of that someone would suggest a nerf, is because they believe that class is too strong, dare I even say, "overpowered"?  Which can actually be attributed to someone not using the correct tactic, or piece of equipment to counter that class, in that situation.  If you need some help figuring out what classes and tactics counter another class, tactic, or piece of equipment, I'd be happy to help.

He is an hoplite, but he didn't mention nerf to hoplite class

I have thought a long time about what caused this amount of whine. The answer is actually quite easy:

People are not looking for balance, they are looking for advantage. If an advantage is taken from them, no matter if justified or not, they whine. Pretty understandable, actually.

So, using the principle of "don't hate the players, hate the game", it's up to me to propose a solution to this problem. The only fair way (and most efficient one, too!) is to wipe the database every time new weapon stats are released. This will ensure that no one is at a disadvantage, because everyone can find the new "OP" weapon, like everyone else.

Opinions?

[CrazyCracka420]

That is true.  The only 100% fair way would be a database wipe, or free respec (and looms given back) every time they put new stats on an item.

Moving horse requirements fucked a lot of people over (even people without looms who were already finished retiring).  The black armor was another big one, they should have given looms back to people who had loomed black armor. 

I personally would prefer if they just left the game alone for the most part when it comes to item stats, skill requirements, etc.  Or else implement changes in lump sums, and wipe the database (or give everyone free respecs) when they do it.

Focus on strategus, and on fixing things that are broken.  Or implementing new things to c-rpg.  The classes and equipment are all pretty well balanced (balance, i.e. everything has strengths and weaknesses).

[Bulzur]

By the way, dont forget glaives. They are fucking too fast regardless of their length.

Seriously, do you really play this game? Stop being childish if i want your class to be nerfed. 

Now the glaive shit is something i'd agree to.
I hate backpedalling glaive user, though they had disapear, but GK just found out they were 2 slots and use them on their lancer now... such a pain.

Make the glaive 3 slot. It's still possible to backpedall and spam with it, but at least, you won't be able to use an heavy lance or a great long axe following what you are.

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Or make the heavy lance 3 slot, fine by me.

[_Tak_]

Now the glaive shit is something i'd agree to.
I hate backpedalling glaive user, though they had disapear, but GK just found out they were 2 slots and use them on their lancer now... such a pain.

Make the glaive 3 slot. It's still possible to backpedall and spam with it, but at least, you won't be able to use an heavy lance or a great long axe following what you are.

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Or make the heavy lance 3 slot, fine by me.

None of us use glaive when dehorse Bulzur xD

[Bobthehero]

Buff Swashbuckler, force first person.

[Sultan Eren]

He is an hoplite, but he didn't mention nerf to hoplite class

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17280.msg246630.html#msg246630

This was when i had an +3 awlpike which has 36 pierce and i was using it with shield. STFU and grow up!

[_Tak_]

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17280.msg246630.html#msg246630

This was when i had an +3 awlpike which has 36 pierce and i was using it with shield. STFU and grow up!

No all i am saying is in your thread you want all other classes to be nerf to gain advantage to your class, yet you have not mention the nerf to hoplite

[Sultan Eren]

Then I'm thinking it's fine as what it is. Fgs stop blaming and encounter my nerf and buff requests with an idea. Tell me why and how.

[bruce]

More +1s for Eren, come on.

[Sultan Eren]

More +1s for Eren, come on.

Waiting for Leshma. 

[Leshma]

Making a fun of me, eh?

Nice try, you should put a little bit more effort into it. My suggestions aren't coming straight out of my butt, I've thought about them for some time and they are mostly based on experience.

[bruce]

Changing longspears/pikes into support/antihorse weapons which can be used in conjunction with a normal polearm (because of 2 str req), nerfing crossbow + greatsword hybrids, and nerfing cavalry are not exactly ideas unheard of.

[Lactating Vegetables]

Can you really block a sword with 3-meters long stick? Bullshit.

Thats like saying, can you block a great sword with a chamber attack with a fist? it works but its bull shit

[Bulzur]

None of us use glaive when dehorse Bulzur xD

I'm pretty sure masasa or Musashi used one yesterday night. 100%sure it was a GK, 50% sure of the name.

[Strider]

The suggestions in the spoiler are good.