Awlpike with shield

[illogical]

Awlpike speed nerfed, now its hard style weapon. Maybe restore ability to use a shield with it.

[Gurnisson]

No, that's what ashwood pike's for

[Vibe]

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33 pierce
165 length
91 speed

"hard style weapon"

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[Leshma]

Hoplites don't have polestagger anymore therefore I agree with OP.

[illogical]

"hard style weapon"

yea, i played with awlpike before and after patch.

[Strider]

I think he's right. The awlpike is meant to be used with a sheild. And the long awlpike is meant for no sheild. Whats the point to use awlpike as main polearm over the long awlpike? Both the long awlpike and awlpike were usable with sheild originally. I dont see the reasons why the awlpike can't at least be able to.

[Gurnisson]

I think he's right. The awlpike is meant to be used with a sheild. And the long awlpike is meant for no sheild. Whats the point to use awlpike as main polearm over the long awlpike? Both the long awlpike and awlpike were usable with sheild originally. I dont see the reasons why the awlpike can't at least be able to.

Compare awlpike with ashwood and you'll understand why.

Anyway, awlpike glances far less than long awlpike so it's still a very good, high damaging polearm.

[Digglez]

awlpike is a 2 handed weapon, half of the weapon is HEAVY hardened metal designed to pierce plate

[Vkvkvk]

I think he's right. The awlpike is meant to be used with a sheild. And the long awlpike is meant for no sheild. Whats the point to use awlpike as main polearm over the long awlpike? Both the long awlpike and awlpike were usable with sheild originally. I dont see the reasons why the awlpike can't at least be able to.

I prefer using the awlpike over the long awlpike.

Might just be a personal thing but I find it's much easier to maneuver and play well with. In one on one situations or where you're outnumbered, the awlpike is usually much better than the long awlpike.

Long awlpike would be more for support while the regular awlpike is better offensive power alone/outnumbered at the cost of a slight penalty in supporting.

[Rebelyell]

I think he's right. The awlpike is meant to be used with a sheild. And the long awlpike is meant for no sheild. Whats the point to use awlpike as main polearm over the long awlpike? Both the long awlpike and awlpike were usable with sheild originally. I dont see the reasons why the awlpike can't at least be able to.

"I think is" not argument

go look for some more info,
 never used with shield

[Leshma]

Awlpike being usable with a shield would be awesome short term buff for hoplites.

However, when awlpike could be used with a shield, ashwood pike was the weapon without meaning.

Instead of buffing ashwood pike they nerfed awlpike.

And then removed polestagger. And now german greatsword is so much better than anything hoplite has.  It doesn't have longer reach but thanks to fast 2H builds I'm able to outstab many hoplites.

Buff hoplites!

[Ronin]

Buff hoplites!

YESYES!

[Haboe]

Indeed, shield + spear could use a buff

[Ptolemy]

And now german greatsword is so much better than anything hoplite has.  It doesn't have longer reach but thanks to fast 2H builds I'm able to outstab many hoplites.

Buff hoplites!

No. Nerf Greatswords.

[oprah_winfrey]

Awlpike being usable with a shield would be awesome short term buff for hoplites.

However, when awlpike could be used with a shield, ashwood pike was the weapon without meaning

Except im pretty sure the ashwood was not usable with a shield until the patch that took it away from thw awlpike