Which build to choose as a shielder?

[BlackMilk]

I know that 21/15 and 18/18 are the standard builds for players of the 1h/shield class but for me personally neither the 15 agi on the first nor the 18 str on the second one really suit me well as a 1h/shielder (shorter and less damaging than 2h/polearm). Thus i was wondering if this build is viable and if its not id like to know your opinion about how its not a good build..

21/18
4 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
6 Shield
6 Athletics
0 Weapon Master

Discuss!

[rustyspoon]

I know that 21/15 and 18/18 are the standard builds for players of the 1h/shield class but for me personally neither the 15 agi on the first nor the 18 str on the second one really suit me well as a 1h/shielder (shorter and less damaging than 2h/polearm). Thus i was wondering if this build is viable and if its not id like to know your opinion about how its not a good build..

21/18
4 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
6 Shield
6 Athletics
0 Weapon Master

Discuss!

Totally viable and far superior to 21/15 imo.

I personally prefer 18/21 myself, but 21/18 is totally great.

[Cumface]

Light armor, nordic champions sword...

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Level:           30

Strength:        24
Agility:         15

Attr to skill:    0
Skill to attr:    8

Ironflash:        5
Power Strike:     8
Shield:           5
Athletics:        5
Riding:           0
Horse Archery:    0
Power Draw:       0
Power Throw:      0
Weapon Master:    0

One Handed:     111
Two Handed:       1
Polearm:          1
Archery:          1
Crossbow:         1
Throwing:         1
^{using cRPG NewGen calc}

[Digglez]

prob dont need 6 shield if you have 6 ATHLETICS and/or a decent blocker. get some WPF

[Cumface]

prob dont need 6 shield if you have 6 ATHLETICS and/or a decent blocker. get some WPF

WPF = useless, PS = useful

[Digglez]

WPF = useless, PS = useful

10 WPF = 1% damage

[Cumface]

10 WPF = 1% damage

Lies-.

[rustyspoon]

The difference between 111 WPF and 150 WPF is about 2 points of damage. Not worth the investment at all.

[Froto_the_Loc]

I'm not so sure about no weapon master.
Maybe it's just me, but it just doesn't work out.

[BlackMilk]

I'm not so sure about no weapon master.
Maybe it's just me, but it just doesn't work out.

how so? Lack of speed?

[Shatter]

I know that 21/15 and 18/18 are the standard builds for players of the 1h/shield class but for me personally neither the 15 agi on the first nor the 18 str on the second one really suit me well as a 1h/shielder (shorter and less damaging than 2h/polearm). Thus i was wondering if this build is viable and if its not id like to know your opinion about how its not a good build..

21/18
4 Ironflesh
7 Powerstrike
6 Shield
6 Athletics
0 Weapon Master

Discuss!

I really like the build. It is the same build I use as shielder except I get 5 IF and 5 shield instead of 4 IF and 6 shield. I'm not a big fan of WM. The difference is hardly noticeable when compared to having more health/shield skill.

[Froto_the_Loc]

how so? Lack of speed?

Maybe it's just I've always used WM builds.
I'm crazy, just ignore me.

[Frell]

Why 0 wm?


Im going 21/15

[rustyspoon]

Why 0 wm?


Im going 21/15

It's a bad point investment. The difference between 111 WPF (0 WM) and 145 (5 WM) is 1-2 points of damage increase. Also 100 WPF increases your swing speed by about .06 seconds. So an extra 30 will increase it by roughly .02 seconds. Kind of a waste for 5 points. You could just take those and increase your str and PS instead. Much better point investment.

[San]

Yeah, 21/18 would be better for anyone competent in melee already. No reason not to go low WM build for pure infantry. Swing speed  does matter a little bit in terms of recognizing when your swing would beat out your opponent's, but the swing animation has much more of an effect on that. All of my pure 1h dream builds involve no WM at all.

I wear heavy armor and my effective wpf comes out to ~100 from 131 with 1h and I still swing fast. Medium armor with 111 should be just fine.