Rome II General Info Thread

[Adamar]

It's smashing when your phalanx is hit from the sides and back as well as the front. You have to move your Light Infantry to stop the mighty Iceni flank, at which point they will be eaten up by Handsome Heavy Chariots, oh your cavalry? enjoy the spears and counter cavalry charge, all the whilst your slow moving phalanx is being pelted with stones and confronted by some angry chest hair wielding cunts, meaning if they break formation to turn and face the flankers they will be attacked from the rear, leaving them no choice but to be flanked, I mighty, Iceni.

You try to flank the phalanx with an inferior force, it willl get overwhelmed by cav and hoplites. You try to flank the phalanx with most of your units, the phalanx will turn and the weaker side of your army gets overhelmed by cav and hoplites. You try to break your army appart any further for flanking purposes, it will just be overhelmed faster. Unless charriots can break phallanxes from the front now, I dont see how you would expect to win.

[Xant]

Romans also get a gladiator unit, with twice the melee stats of any other unit.

slow sigh

[Leesin]

You try to flank the phalanx with an inferior force, it willl get overwhelmed by cav and hoplites. You try to flank the phalanx with most of your units, the phalanx will turn and the weaker side of your army gets overhelmed by cav and hoplites. You try to break your army appart any further for flanking purposes, it will just be overhelmed faster. Unless charriots can break phallanxes from the front now, I dont see how you would expect to win.

When your phalanx turn they are charged in the back by skirmishers and then either cut down if you force your unit to move away or they are locked into combat until they win, whilst the remainder of your force is killed by my superior force. We'll play in a couple of weeks when I've managed to get in a few sessions to learn the new features and units etc ( have a full time night shift job, a son and a girlfriend so it'll take a couple weeks to get in a few gaming sessions lol ) and hopefully I'll show you the Phalanx isn't the be all win all and that even cheap units of skirmishers can cause so much problem for a Phalanx that it can decide the outcome of the battle.

[Adamar]

When your phalanx turn they are charged in the back by skirmishers

You try to flank the phalanx with most of your units, the phalanx will turn and the weaker side of your army gets overhelmed by cav and hoplites.

slow sigh

It had to be so, or the kiddies would cry.

[Xant]

I'm just somewhat disheartened, though not surprised, that CA is still measuring unit effectiveness by coolness factor. Gladiator training does not form effective, cohesive military units. But Spartacus, so gladiators are twice more effective than military units actually trained for the job.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

I'm just somewhat disheartened, though not surprised, that CA is still measuring unit effectiveness by coolness factor. Gladiator training does not form effective, cohesive military units. But Spartacus, so gladiators are twice more effective than military units actually trained for the job.

I think CA don't know that gladiators hardly ever actually killed each other. I mean with such a historically accurate film like Gladiator, who could argue with such hollywoodness. 

[Butan]

I'm just somewhat disheartened, though not surprised, that CA is still measuring unit effectiveness by coolness factor. Gladiator training does not form effective, cohesive military units. But Spartacus, so gladiators are twice more effective than military units actually trained for the job.

Maybe not cohesive units but a unit with very high attack and very low defense and morale would be realistic. Even though I dont think gladiators have ever been enrolled into any armies in history (except if they were rioting themselves) so its a bit hard to watch and enjoy.

[Xant]

Maybe not cohesive units but a unit with very high attack and very low defense and morale would be realistic.

No. That is not how it works. That's video game logic.

[Emotion]

lol bunch a fucking whiny babies crying and bitching about a game they will have well over 100 hours game play on average. 

[Adamar]

lol bunch a fucking whiny babies crying and bitching about a game they will have well over 100 hours game play on average. 

The very reason we're disapointed is becaue we're gonna play the game with all its flaws.

That said, it's the second time I see a battle end without the option to carry on and clear the field. It's worrying.

[Ganner]

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[Casimir]

Maybe not cohesive units but a unit with very high attack and very low defense and morale would be realistic. Even though I dont think gladiators have ever been enrolled into any armies in history (except if they were rioting themselves) so its a bit hard to watch and enjoy.

Well considering a lot of gladiators we're PoW's I'd expect they had a decent level of military training.

[okiN]

So javelins have a range of 80, cretan archers 125, and rhodian slingers 150. That seems awfully low for the archers and slingers, only javelins really seem worth it. 

Well, remember that javelins have a much smaller ammo count, and the others can get some shots in on the javelinmen before they even close to throwing range. In a prolonged engagement I think archers and slingers should get their own back and then some.

Romans also get a gladiator unit, with twice the melee stats of any other unit.

Yeah, those dudes seem really buff. At least they had worse defence than triarii, shit armour and a smaller unit size, and I kind of assume they're an expensive elite unit.

In the video cretan archers on the wall fire at the charging gladiator unit, failing to kill a single man, until a friendly artillery kills two. They still dont loose any after running through the breach and chasing down two units. 

Archers and slingers seem like a complete joke, unless you need them to kill horse archers you cant catch.

Well, if you look at the video, the archers actually only shoot a few arrows. Not sure what's going on with them, maybe it's a bug or they're distracted by something. I think they're definitely not behaving like they should there.

[Dezilagel]

Was going to preorder until I saw the 3 "bonus" faction bullshit.

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[Leesin]

Quote from: Leesin on August 31, 2013, 09:18:22 pm
When your phalanx turn they are charged in the back by skirmishers

Quote from: Adamar on August 31, 2013, 08:55:45 pm
You try to flank the phalanx with most of your units, the phalanx will turn and the weaker side of your army gets overhelmed by cav and hoplites.

I see you fantasizing but I don't see you accepting the offer to prove your theory about how I wont kick your ass, you gonna battle me or not BRO?

You scared of the mighty Iceni bro? check out the fucking mighty hair bro

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