Rome II General Info Thread

[Xant]

I'm not very optimistic when "rock paper scissors balance" is thrown around so much by the developers. It's the worst and laziest way to balance a RTS game.

[Casimir]

Slingers seems like a complete waste unless your fighting naked people without shields 

They're valuable for breaking up frontlines and supporting engaged units, which seems appropriate to me.

[Tor!]

I think a cav, melee or archer / javelin unit will always have more utility than slingers. But I'm judging from what I've seen so far in the videos, there are still those pesky Balearic slingers who havent been seen yet 

[darmaster]

anyone knows if console command will be enabled?

[Lt_Anders]

I think a cav, melee or archer / javelin unit will always have more utility than slingers. But I'm judging from what I've seen so far in the videos, there are still those pesky Balearic slingers who havent been seen yet 

Gotta remember, during this time period, people didn't really have significant armor like they did in the later middle ages. Those slingers would sling a 5-10 lb(or was it kg, can't remember) lead pellet that would hurt. Not to mention, slingers were very, very good, and fairly accurate(often young men, and near constant training).

They were deadly against unarmored opponents, decent to effective against light armor, but heavy armor they shrug. That's where archers would come in with the more efficient anti armor capabilities.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

This is how useful slinger's are. 

http://youtu.be/f_fpOUQcAac?t=3m22s

[Banok]

anyone knows if console command will be enabled?

why do people like you have to post, I'm trying to cut down on my fap

slingers will hopefully be uber cheap and just to fill up the gaps in your stacks early on i'm guessing. plus they demoralize the people they are slingers, although when your slingers flee IDK if that reduces morale of your other nearby units. always kind of felt like this may be the case in shogun 2.

[ThePoopy]

Archers have a fast fire rate, good range and damage, but little of their damage is armour piercing so they struggle against the more armoured units.

Javelins are short range, but very high damage so can hurt anyone.

Slingers have the longest range and a lot of ammo. Their weakness is low damage, but they will do something against everyone.

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[Adamar]

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[Tor!]

Hello all,

Just to let you all know CA today announced the Activation Time for ROME II on its release day next week as a single worldwide unlock time of zero hours US Pacific Time on the 3rd Sept, equivalent of 00:00 PDT / 03:00 EDT / 08:00 BST / 09:00 CET / 17:00 AEST.

From that point game activation will be live and Total War: ROME II will be playable.

Digital customers can begin preloading via Steam from 10:00 PDT / 18:00 BST today (28th Aug) in order to be as ready as possible to begin their conquest of the ancient world on launch day, with only the day one content patch including Pontus, an additional playable faction, needing to be downloaded once the game is live.

[Butan]

Like others said, slingers will probably be pretty cheap and useful if handled right.


But the problems in total war series is that most of the time :

- AI full charge mode doesnt leave much pre-battle skirmish time, for slingers and every other ranged units (thats the thing I hated the most with AI, and thats why I love fighting against humans)
- every slots in an army counts, even more if you cant have non-general armies hanging around just to delay/scout/have some fights, so most of the time you will want all your units to be efficient
- the way human players handle cavalry, and AI too to a certain extent (which would be genius-like in real battles, where you cant really have sky-view + instant communication), its piss easy to target and rape any light unit trying to get some fight (wether ranged or melee light unit) if they dont have a sufficient cover nearby


So basically, if you're not hella good at micro-managing, I guess slingers and other non-super lethal ranged units will be very few in battles where you can choose exactly what you want to have as an army (with infinite gold and unit type I mean, then economy-faction limitation will certainly give some incentive to try them out!).

[Bulzur]

You should also consider the speed and stamina.
Yes, cavs are your biggest threat, but if you eliminate them early on (baiting one unit of slinger), then the rest of your slingers can pull and damage an entire unit of slower infantry.
Cost/Efficiency, i believe them to be more than decent.
I can't recall how effective slingers are against horses though. They have a superior range (on paper), but do they still do a lot of damage at that range ? Low-damage range units are often only used to kill horses, and demoralize/slowly kill ennemy infantry.

I still prefer archers (Cretan Archers !), but since you don't have that many armies around, guess you'll prioritize infantry. 2 archer, 6 infantry, 1 general, 2 cav, 1 siege, for example.

[Adamar]

It's loaded! Any cracks out there?

[Ganner]

If you preordered from GetGames you should of recieved your key by now and you can start preloading as well too!

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