Rome II General Info Thread

[Korgoth]

One thing I'm not looking forward to...

Fucking DLCS and Unit Packs....

[Xant]

Smooth, NTW is definitely not about guns blobs and artillery. Takes by far the most skill in the series. You have to maximize firepower and make sure you don't shoot your own guys. Every unit is both a melee and ranged unit. Artillery is pretty good,but you can often do without.

[Oberyn]

Well your talking about RTT type of games, there was an old game but still with much better mechanics in battle than TW, called warhammer dark omen

Myth TFL and Myth II were in that vein of multi combat. Some of the last drops of Bungie awesomeness before they completely sold out and made Halo.

[Blueberry Muffin]

I need some new trousers.....   

In my mind rome tw, medieval 1+2 were the only tw games worth playing. Empire and Napoleon unimpressed me deeply, shogun was even worse.

Thank fuck theyve got back to an interesting era with some proper unit variety. My one hope is that these combat animations are alot shorter than in the previous versions. They look nice with just 2 guys spinning and attacking, but when it gets up to a few hundred men, it just looks fucking retarded with soldiers glitching through each other, or waiting their turn to fight each other, rather than ganking the bastard like real soldiers would.

But all in all Im fucking hyped.

[gazda]

why is everyone so against shogun 2, for me it is the best total war game so far. Disregard the era and setting, look at the game itself. Combat, compare shogun 2 combat with medieval 2 combat, improvment is incredible. Shogun 2 is the first game so far where soldiers actually fight 1v1. You can just zoom in and see the epicness. In medieval 2, each soldier swung his sword in different time and hit air, and magically other soldier 3m away frm him sudennly died of that swing. Best you could do there is zoom out fast forward time and wait till blue dots kill all red dots.

[[ptx]]

How is adding 1v1 based comat animations, that lock the 2 participants in it, making them unavailable to attack from other enemies an improvement over a system that would actually take troop numbers and positions into account, so you don't get a single samurai, surrounded by a hundred ashigaru, killing them off one by one for half a minute, till one of the ashigaru gets a lucky roll and kills the samurai in a duel?

[Xant]

Unit handling and general responsiveness is great in S2TW

[gazda]

How is adding 1v1 based comat animations, that lock the 2 participants in it, making them unavailable to attack from other enemies an improvement over a system that would actually take troop numbers and positions into account, so you don't get a single samurai, surrounded by a hundred ashigaru, killing them off one by one for half a minute, till one of the ashigaru gets a lucky roll and kills the samurai in a duel?

nobody said it is perfect, but its definetly a lot better swingin in air and magically hitting unit thats 2m away from you

[[ptx]]

It is not visually pleasing, but at least a clash between 2 infantry formations does not turn into a series of duels. Also, 2m away? Obvious exaggeration is obvious.

[Chagan_Arslan]

nobody said it is perfect, but its definetly a lot better swingin in air and magically hitting unit thats 2m away from you

played shit loads of sieges in s2tw, what was funny was that CA didnt figure it out that archers on a lower ground with wall in front of them wouldnt see where the enemy behind the wall is, but in s2tw they did and they even could shoot inside of the castle right at the place where the enemy is, killing a lot of troops each volley ;p

i would take a game with soldiers swinging into air and killing but with proper battle mechanics, and ways for players to be creative rather than looking on max zoom in on a duel between two guys, and with r2tw you will even see the angry faces!

i hope there will come some game studio that will end their monopoly and put more effort on actual battles than shiny graphics

[Teeth]

why is everyone so against shogun 2, for me it is the best total war game so far. Disregard the era and setting, look at the game itself.

The era and the setting are quite an important and defining part of the game.

Shogun 2 is the first game so far where soldiers actually fight 1v1. You can just zoom in and see the epicness.

Where on the other hand, this is rather unimportant to me. Oh and in Medieval 2 they always actually hit the other soldiers and there were finishing animations which look quite cool. Seriously though, I'm not there to watch 2 soldiers fight, I'm there to rape armies and pillage the lands.

[gazda]

Oh and in Medieval 2 they always actually hit the other soldiers and there were finishing animations which look quite cool. Seriously though, I'm not there to watch 2 soldiers fight, I'm there to rape armies and pillage the lands.

Theoretically , yes m2tw has dueling animation and finishing animations, but how they really look is very different from what they show in trailer and intro movie. BIG majority of those animations are very odd and swords, armors etc never even come in contact.

theres not only 2 doldiers fighting, its the whole outline to the point where formation allows it.


but im sure theyll manage to do both in rome 2

[Ninja_Khorin]

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Siege towers are coming back. And apparently arrows stick to shields.

[[ptx]]

Aww, cmon, that is obviously just concept art.

[Ninja_Khorin]

I know, right!

Anyway, some more developer chat from Total War Center:

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Hi all, new update based on more common questions from around the forums.

Q. How historically accurate will Rome II be?

A. It is more useful to talk in terms of historical authenticity than historical accuracy, which never survives past the player getting involved anyway. There are a lot of things we do which aren’t accurate because it is a game, battles lasting minutes not hours or days for example. So any game can’t be historically accurate, but we are aiming for it to be more historically authentic than ever.

This refers to the look and feel of the various nations and peoples in the games, from the way they are dressed to the equipment they use on the battlefield to the mechanics on the campaign map. So the armour, tunic, helmets, shields and so on will be based on historical examples. The unit rosters will be based on the kind of units that were fielded and the societies of different cultures.

There will be units which were historically rare but we make more of because they are interesting and different. As in the past few Total War games they will not be appearing in every army but they will be there to add flavour.

Q. Will there be mixed main weapon types within a unit, say barbarians fighting with swords and spears in the same unit?

A. No. Whilst historically this may have occurred we split them into different units for gameplay reasons. Spears and swords have different stats in our game so we want them to be the main weapons for different units so the use for them is clearer and the player can tailor their army make up more depending on their play style.

Q. Will most of the effort be going into the Roman faction at the expense of other factions and cultures?

A. There is obviously far more information available on Rome than on other factions and cultures in this era, but that does not mean we are neglecting them. A lot of research has gone into the unit rosters for non-roman factions and into the campaign map to represent them well.

Q. With talk of reducing micro-management on the campaign, is it going to be even more focused on war?

A. The focus on reducing province and region micro-management is so the campaign can focus on other areas and not just war. There are a lot of great new features that will increase the campaign gameplay depth.

Not quite the time to outline them all now, but expect greater intrigue and emphasis on characters.

Q. Will mercenaries make a return?

A. YES!

Q. Will Rome II use Steam, and why?

A. Yes Rome II will use and require Steam, just like Empire, Napoleon and Shogun II.

Steam offers a lot of benefits to both us and players, from helping us to reach more people and provide on-going updates to the campaign and multiplayer, along with allowing a great platform for DLC and helping to reduce piracy.

In general, integrating Steam features into the game (like language, social, achievement and multiplayer features for example) also helps us spend more development time on improving and implementing other features.

We will also be talking about some exciting additional Steam features in the future.