Getting from lvl 30 to 31 takes too long.

[Christo]

I have an idea.

Gen 1 starts with level 30. Can retire at 31.

And after every generation, this starting level should go down by a number, let's say: 2 or 1.

So With gen 2, you will have to start from 29.
Or, the needed XP shall be increased in the 0-30 period every time you retire.
Also, 30-31 xp requirement shall increase only with generation, and with gen1, it should be a lot less than now.

Imo, if used correctly, this would bring "some" balance.

For the 30-31 grind, yeah. It will be painful until you reach a double digit generation. Something has to be done about it, to help newcomers.

[Rhaelys]

The only change which dont fucks one side  is to give 1500 Base and 5% Genbonus.
Probably some people still would bitch around but they always do.

Again, this.

[Wallace]

While I'm not bashing the system really in the first place I think of all these ideas best one is 1500 xp base and 5% per gen

Noone is getting shit on and everyone wins

[Christo]

Again, this.

Good idea, I support it.

[Bjord]

I support it as well, but I know nothing will be changed.

It's going to stay at 1k base for as long as that tyrant chadz lives.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

true this takes to long the retire it just takes to long

[Malaclypse]

Speaking as a first gen char 1.4 million exp from 31, it takes a long time, but not too long compared with other grindy games I've played before (e.g. Diablo II once you get in the upper 80s, WoW). It's really not that bad.

[Cyclopsided]

Speaking as a first gen char 1.4 million exp from 31, it takes a long time, but not too long compared with other grindy games I've played before (e.g. Diablo II once you get in the upper 80s, WoW). It's really not that bad.

This is much more of a grind than upper 80s diablo 2. Atleast for me, In diablo 2 I leveled really fast constantly doing baal runs. Off topic, though.

Back on topic, The 30 to 31 should take a while. I think the 1500 per tick with 5% gen bonus should be implemented for sure.
I thought about it. If a gen 1 character starts with 1.5 Million exp; He will be level 24 and a bit, that is a good starting point for a gen 1 character when it is made.
I do NOT think it should carry over for later gens.  Besides, Think about it for a second. A 1st generation fighter in a war, what is he? Someone who had to fight later in life. He has had his life of experience from before he was later caught up in the war.
A second generation and subsequent generations are raised by their veteran retired family; and were left a family heirloom. They grow up into battle.
It makes sense from both the perspective of role playing, and from being better to first gen characters who get shafted currently.

[Anal Bleeding]

after patch u get xp even when u r dead, before patch u could die and get no exp even if your team won the round.
it does take a long time to hit 31, and the rewards are not really worth it unless you want to collect masterwork items, but that is how the dumb patch works.

[Lorenzo]

I just think it's fine at it is. It's long but not too long. I especialy like the fact that you are able to play with a lvl 30 char half the time against other player's lvl 30 chars.

Gen 1 and 2 can be painfull if you do not like the path you've chosen. If you have a character that is fun to play I dont see the need to look at your Xp bar getting greener.

[Amender]

It may not see like a long time for those of you who have lots of time on your hands, but when you can only play 1-2 hour a night it just takes forever, and i have introduced 4 friends to the mod who all hate the unbalanced begging of the game and are thinking of not playing it anymore.... for the good of the Mod it would be better if some things were changed, a hell of a lot more players would come over to crpg as the positives outweigh the negatives, Crpg would become a lot more fun and exciting for new players and more of a challenge to the long time vets who get tons of xp a min basically it would breathe new life into this great Mod. The mid life crisis idea was one of the best i read and the 1500 5% gen

[MountedRhader]

The mod is better for older players and suckish for new players apparently. 

[bosco]

I'm a fairly 'newcomer', yet I didn't feel put off by the gap between 30 and 31... just worked my way through it. 

[Blondin]

Sorry but i don't realy see how it's hard to go from  lvl 1  to lvl 30, it's very fast, and you can be lvl 20-25 in few hour (lvl 20 is 650k xp!)
Do you remember pre-patch? it was far harder to lvl your char (but easier to retire).
How can you say that it's hard post-patch to level a char, the gap between new player and old one was way way bigger pre-patch.

Lvl a char from 30 to 31, it's harder, off course it's intended, it's only for grinders no-lifers, you don't need this if you want to have fun playing the game, you are not forced to retire and have heirloom to enjoy this mod, or even to pwn other high gen players.

tbh, i don't care of retire, i don't care of heirloom, if i can have one it's fine (i have 3, and don't use them everytime) but i don't need heirloom or high gen.

[Anal Bleeding]

How about this:
new players start with the normal base xp, but they can "buy" higher gen bonus, i.e. $10 will buy gen 2, etc. Older players stay the same.
Discuss.