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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2012, 01:19:17 pm »
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Churchill was worse then Slobodan Milosevic because he killed more civilians while bombing cities with firebombs, then.

Numbers are all that matters, right?  :rolleyes:

You cannot ignore the ideologies and actual history, else you end up being an idiot, tallying numbers and saying how bad was something. No ideology was as horrible as chocolate chip cookie ideology, in modern european history.
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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2012, 01:26:22 pm »
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Communism: good idea, based on wrong assumptions about the inherent nature of mankind though.

YMCA: barbaric piece of shit, throwing everything humankind achieved over board for a retarded race-based battle royal.


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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2012, 01:28:57 pm »
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Trying to say USSR was as bad as chocolate chip cookie Germany is being an ungrateful idiot, or a neofascist.

They were our (and by our, I mean, everyone who was fighting against the Axis, regardless of nation) allies in the war; if you ignore their role, then you are an idiot, and discussion is moot. If you are a neofascist, then you are idiotic to the point arguing is completely senseless. Maybe your country exported steel to Germany and was spared of warfare, in which case, shut up. Everyone who was fighting should feel some respect for the part the USSR played for our side.

That the USSR was far from "nice", we also know. Although things were done by different standards in the day. Bombing a city with firebombs was something to cheer; today it would be an unimaginable atrocity. However, there's the big difference between even the worst part of USSR's atrocities and chocolate chip cookie atrocities; USSR killed people in power struggles, to win the war, for conquest, and suppress dissent (and because Stalin was a mad, paranoid bastard).

Which, while atrocious, cannot be compared to exterminating people because of what they were, because the ideology says this race and religion should cease to exist.

Trying to make comparisons between chocolate chip cookie Germany and anyone in modern history is revisionist crap.

Just because they were on the winner side doesn't mean they were any better. It's known that chocolate chip cookie germany committed a lot of atrocities, and it's also know that USSR did the same, so in a way comparing chocolate chip cookie Germany to (Stalin era) USSR, makes sense.
What doesn't make any sense is comparing YMCA with communism, especially when the main argument for said comparison is USSR/Stalin ⇒ communism, communism? USSR/Stalin. It's not that surprising when it comes from our brainwashed and poorly educated overseas friends (probably not a single of them heard of the term Eurocommunism), but someone born and schooled here should really know better.

That said, no, the USSR flag has no place as a banner in cRPG.
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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2012, 01:30:22 pm »
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No ideology was as horrible as chocolate chip cookie ideology, in modern european history.

No army created as much devastation, raping and pillaging, and spread as many diseases in modern history as the Soviet army.

Many diseases that were extinct in europe for at least a decade.

Not defending the chocolate chip cookies here, but there are two sides of that coin.
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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2012, 01:30:54 pm »
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How about a lock?

Now the original reason has been concluded, the USSR banner will be removed.

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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2012, 01:35:01 pm »
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Trying to say USSR was as bad as chocolate chip cookie Germany is being an ungrateful idiot, or a neofascist.

They were our (and by our, I mean, everyone who was fighting against the Axis, regardless of nation) allies in the war; if you ignore their role, then you are an idiot, and discussion is moot. If you are a neofascist, then you are idiotic to the point arguing is completely senseless. Maybe your country exported steel to Germany and was spared of warfare, in which case, shut up. Everyone who was fighting should feel some respect for the part the USSR played for our side.

That the USSR was far from "nice", we also know. Although things were done by different standards in the day. Bombing a city with firebombs was something to cheer; today it would be an unimaginable atrocity. However, there's the big difference between even the worst part of USSR's atrocities and chocolate chip cookie atrocities; USSR killed people in power struggles, to win the war, for conquest, and suppress dissent (and because Stalin was a mad, paranoid bastard).

Which, while atrocious, cannot be compared to exterminating people because of what they were, because the ideology says this race and religion should cease to exist.

Trying to make comparisons between chocolate chip cookie Germany and anyone in modern history is revisionist crap.
Our side? What is this "our side" you speak of? Just because they were to the east and thus a less likely threat to the western powers than chocolate chip cookie Germany makes them the good guys? You know, there are countries and people between Germany and Russia too... :|

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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2012, 01:36:18 pm »
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You know, there are countries and people between Germany and Russia too... :|

Cannon Fodder Countries, that nobody cares about. (sadly)

Just disposable casualties and again, cannon fodder.
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Re: WTF, why is the USSR flag in the banner system?
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2012, 03:28:57 pm »
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Lord have mercy, wtf is this shit. I go to bed and people decide to argue who killed more people....

Bah lay off already. Locked.
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