Long Maul shrunk?

[mcdeath]

Yes well we all have our opinions. I am just pointing out that critizing someone for using a maul and then complaining about a maul is just out right stupid.

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[Rhaelys]

Zisa you troll Miley for using a great maul (which is harder than a long maul) and you then complain about the long maul. You are dumb as rocks.

This is incorrect, unless you mean to say that the Great Maul hits harder than a Long Maul.

Ever see a full plate monster using a Long Maul?

Or even anyone using a Long Maul?

If anyone actually allows you to overhead them with a 70 speed weapon, there is still a good chance that no crushthrough will occur because of the low damage and lower weight compared to the Great Maul, which also happens to be 10 speed faster.

[oprah_winfrey]

This is incorrect, unless you mean to say that the Great Maul hits harder than a Long Maul.

Ever see a full plate monster using a Long Maul?

Or even anyone using a Long Maul?

I see a few do ok with it, the only ones whose names I remember are rustyspoons, miley, and beeper. And beeper using any polearm doesnt count as something being good.

[Rhaelys]

I see a few do ok with it, the only ones whose names I remember are rustyspoons, miley, and beeper. And beeper using any polearm doesnt count as something being good.

That's my point. No one actually uses the Long Maul with any semblance of seriousness. You use it for the lulz.

People actually use the Great Maul because it's a good weapon in the right hands and with the right build and equipment.

[oprah_winfrey]

That's my point. No one actually uses the Long Maul with any semblance of seriousness. You use it for the lulz.

People actually use the Great Maul because it's a good weapon in the right hands and with the right build and equipment.

I would say the great maul is a lot easier to use then the long maul

[mcdeath]

Ok I understand what the point you are making and the only reason I think the long maul is easier is because well it's longer. The person can just s key and overhead if they have to. You are right though the great maul is more popular and is better.

[Zisa]

Nope, the second then.

Zisa was talking about the first then.

Ah, I stand corrected. I shall flog my editor. I was more correct with my first then than the second.

[Zisa]

Yes well we all have our opinions. I am just pointing out that critizing someone for using a maul and then complaining about a maul is just out right stupid.

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Actually my point was the LONG MAUL seems to have shrunk. It really was longer yesterday, it is now 125 length. Perhaps it was always 125 length, and the heirloom pack I reinstalled shrank the appearance of it. It is perhaps tied for shittiest (thus best for the lulz) choice of polearm.

[Rhaelys]

Actually my point was the LONG MAUL seems to have shrunk. It really was longer yesterday, it is now 125 length. Perhaps it was always 125 length, and the heirloom pack I reinstalled shrank the appearance of it. It is perhaps tied for shittiest (thus best for the lulz) choice of polearm.

On this I think everyone agrees.

And to Egan: was just blindly responding to whoever responded to me; didn't actually see what you said earlier.

[rustyspoon]

I use the long maul literally every day. Length seems the same to me. The nerf to turning was a HUGE nerf to the long maul though. One of my favorite tricks was to pretend to miss with the side swing, pass them on the side and immediately turn around and overhead. Ah, good times.

The great maul is WAY better than the long maul also. Not only is it way the fuck faster, heavier AND does more damage, it's shorter length makes it a better weapon.

If you have a long maul and someone facehugs you, you literally can't hit them. Your weapon is too slow. You need to keep them at length to have a chance at hitting them. The great maul doesn't have that problem as you WANT people to be close to you.

So to use the long maul effectively you need at least 6 athletics on NA, which cuts down on your powerstrike. With a lower powerstrike, the only way you reliably crushthrough is by speed bonus and held attacks.

It's a truly TERRIBLE weapon, but I love it so.

Still for fun, look how it compares to the Long Hafted Spiked Mace and the Great Maul. Good times.

Long Maul
weapon length: 125
weight: 7
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 70
weapon length: 125
thrust damage: 10 blunt
swing damage: 37 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
7592

Long Hafted Spiked Mace
weapon length: 138
weight: 3
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 138
thrust damage: 20 blunt
swing damage: 32 blunt
slots: 2
Unbalanced
Knockdown
6,819

Great Maul
weapon length: 68
weight: 8
difficulty: 20
speed rating: 80
weapon length: 68
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 43 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
9,766

[Rhaelys]

I use the long maul literally every day. Length seems the same to me. The nerf to turning was a HUGE nerf to the long maul though. One of my favorite tricks was to pretend to miss with the side swing, pass them on the side and immediately turn around and overhead. Ah, good times.

The great maul is WAY better than the long maul also. Not only is it way the fuck faster, heavier AND does more damage, it's shorter length makes it a better weapon.

If you have a long maul and someone facehugs you, you literally can't hit them. Your weapon is too slow. You need to keep them at length to have a chance at hitting them. The great maul doesn't have that problem as you WANT people to be close to you.

So to use the long maul effectively you need at least 6 athletics on NA, which cuts down on your powerstrike. With a lower powerstrike, the only way you reliably crushthrough is by speed bonus and held attacks.

It's a truly TERRIBLE weapon, but I love it so.

Still for fun, look how it compares to the Long Hafted Spiked Mace and the Great Maul. Good times.

Long Maul
weapon length: 125
weight: 7
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 70
weapon length: 125
thrust damage: 10 blunt
swing damage: 37 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
7592

Long Hafted Spiked Mace
weapon length: 138
weight: 3
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 91
weapon length: 138
thrust damage: 20 blunt
swing damage: 32 blunt
slots: 2
Unbalanced
Knockdown
6,819

Great Maul
weapon length: 68
weight: 8
difficulty: 20
speed rating: 80
weapon length: 68
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 43 blunt
slots: 3
Can't use on horseback
Crushthrough
Unbalanced
Knockdown
9,766

I would honestly support a buff of 6-7 speed and perhaps 2 damage for the Long Maul. Its current state maximizes the lulziness but makes for a really sub-par weapon.

[Auphilia]

I've seen Hospitaller_Porksword go to work with a long maul. I'm pretty sure that is the only weapon he really uses lol.
People can't evade it and he makes sure to get the first hit so you are forced to block and get crushed.

[Miley]

What is Zisa's title?

[Kuyamzoleta]

What is Zisa's title?

dreamy

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It has always been 125 length, iirc.