1 handers without shield

[Kafein]

Who said you had to outreach them to play range-game? If you stay in your outer range of the right swing, you'll often punish them for double-attacking. They believe you can't reach you and wants to double-attack, you throw a right swing to their face before he finishes the second swing. The surprise-element of the right swing and its length can give you hits where you otherwise wouldn't.

The right swing used to be so slow that just wouldn't work. Dunno if it changed though.

[_GTX_]

The right swing used to be so slow that just wouldn't work. Dunno if it changed though.

it seems pretty fast to me. I do what gurnisson is saying with 1 wpf on my main, on the duel server.

[Kafein]

it seems pretty fast to me. I do what gurnisson is saying with 1 wpf on my main, on the duel server.

Depends on how fast your enemy is moving backwards and left (from your perspective) too, relatively to you.

[Gurnisson]

Depends on how fast your enemy is moving backwards and left (from your perspective) too, relatively to you.

But that again depends on your footwork too.

[Banok]

I'd rather they just nerfed 1h left swing, it really breaks the game.

[TurmoilTom]

I'd rather they just nerfed 1h left swing, it really breaks the game.

No. Either you have bad ping or bad reflexes. One way or the other, it's your problem, not the game's.

Anyway, as far as swashbuckling goes, I think the only thing that should really be changed is the removal of weapon stun. I think the STR build crowd has it good enough, with being able to 1 or 2 shot just about anyone. How are agility builds supposed to get by if they can't swing?

[Kafein]

The 1h left swing should be toned down just not to be that easily spammable (yes you can say anything you want about it being easy to defend against but it is still too effective compared to the required effort), and all the other attacks have speed that makes justice to what a weapon three times lighter than a greatsword can do.

[San]

Right swing needs to be sped up a tad before I would advocate toning down the left swing. Even so, it's similar to how 2h and poles have one of the side swings that is faster than the other. I assume people want melee to be fast, not slow everything down.

The best case would be giving 1h completely different animations without the shield, but that requires more work. Easier sweetspots and less weapon stun are the easiest quick fixes I can imagine. 1h is fine enough in duels and suffers against multiple opponents due to the stun.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Go ahead and ruin shieldless blocking, my +3 knife doesn't give a shit.

(but really, don't. blocking manually takes a lot of skill and even when you are an amazing player things get very hectic and hard to manage in the midst of battle. Don't nerf something that is not overpowered)

[Michael]

I'd rather they just nerfed 1h left swing, it really breaks the game.

How about crushthrough for katanas and long hafted blades instead?

In general, people should stop talking about things they barely understand.
People should stop assuming that they lose in a duel because the other guys class was overpowered.
Instead, people should try the other guys class and then duel him again.
And of course people should stop telling others what they should do.

[Leshma]

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[Mlekce]

The 1h left swing should be toned down just not to be that easily spammable (yes you can say anything you want about it being easy to defend against but it is still too effective compared to the required effort), and all the other attacks have speed that makes justice to what a weapon three times lighter than a greatsword can do.

Are we playing the same game? I have mw kas and 130 wpf and i get spammed by everyone. In alt i have 8 wm and 174 wpf points in 1h and i use steel pick and gues what? Everyone is faster then me. Are you ppl fucking kidding me?
How the fuck do you meange to do that?
Turn attack mechanic is bullshit. When i hit you,and then i try to repeat the attack with 8wm other dude always hit me first.
And right swing looks to me that it is faster then left one.

[Tydeus]

Are we playing the same game? I have mw kas and 130 wpf and i get spammed by everyone. In alt i have 8 wm and 174 wpf points in 1h and i use steel pick and gues what? Everyone is faster then me. Are you ppl fucking kidding me?
How the fuck do you meange to do that?
Turn attack mechanic is bullshit. When i hit you,and then i try to repeat the attack with 8wm other dude always hit me first.
And right swing looks to me that it is faster then left one.

Can't tell if troll or not.

[Mlekce]

Yeah you are all pro,and booring. Enjoy hitting - on mine posts,and laughing.

[Kajia]

Are we playing the same game? I have mw kas and 130 wpf and i get spammed by everyone. In alt i have 8 wm and 174 wpf points in 1h and i use steel pick and gues what? Everyone is faster then me. Are you ppl fucking kidding me?
How the fuck do you meange to do that?
Turn attack mechanic is bullshit. When i hit you,and then i try to repeat the attack with 8wm other dude always hit me first.
And right swing looks to me that it is faster then left one.

try to turn into your attack or walk towards your attacks direction (left-right swing: walk right). practice that, it might help.



aaaand because none seems to have noticed my post from earlier in this thread (and I think I have a valuable point there) I'm shamelessly linking to it now:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,34524.msg519752.html#msg519752