First Thoughts

[Oberyn]

Willing to suffer? Does anyone ever suffer through a video game to enjoy it? 

Are you serious? Well, if by" suffering" you mean slight vexation, then yes, overcoming adversity is a huge part of what makes playing a game, especially multiplayer, fun.

edit: As for the leveling and stats system, they're derived from native single player. If you found it confusing it's because you're simply not familiar with it. Did you play native at all, online?

[robert_namo]

If you don't use a nodachi then you haven't suffered.

[Vkvkvk]

If you don't use a nodachi then you haven't suffered.

That's not true though.

Sure, the Nodachi lacks a stab, but the speed on it is pretty good, the cut damage is pretty awesome, 46c at masterwork is just overkill, the reach on it is great for that kind of damage on a two handed sword AND it's curved, making for some awesome ghostreach bullfuckery on unsuspecting fighters.

[Baggy]

You can easily do levels 1-20 in a few hours.1-25 is doable as well.

[Everkistus]

Seems to me that OP is a dick. I started cRPG when the first tincans were appearing, 50 gold per round was an awesome amount and heirlooms were unheard of. And I did got my ass handed to me in great extent for a looong time.

The thing is that you just got to suck it up, and try to get better yourself. When you get that first kill as a peasant, it's an awesome experience. It was even better back in the day when getting from a peasant into a plate guy took a damn long time.

If you just can't deal with dying for some time until you get better (skill/equipment wise), this game isn't for you.

[Ninja_Khorin]

The funny part is every other forum I talk to about this game completely disagrees with you. I'd link other forums (SA, /vg/ etc) but you get the jist.

I've spent my entire cRPG career in gear worth 13 000 gold, sure I've made millions since I started nearly two years back, but my choice in this game was to play with little gear. I've done fairly well. I died a helluvalot in the beginning because I was a clueless moron, but since then I've been doing fine regardless of what level I am. You just have to accept that as level 1, you're better off as a supporting guy to the high levels. When you hit 15+ you can start fighting on your own and depending on skill defeat them.

Heirlooms are miniscule bonuses to gear. They add a little to the stats but not as much as you think. The most important factor, which is the skill factor, is still the most important one by far. In native you may find server filled with new players and you will have fun there being decent. cRPG only has a few servers and they're all filled with veterans, so yes, new players will die to them until they become veterans.

It seems, though, that I had a different mindset when I started playing. I chose 2h, because after playing the first M&B for over a year atleast, I had never learned to block with them. So I was a peasant in a world of plate and my first buy was a wooden longsword, which I used with little effect, trying to sneak in hits when the big guys weren't watching. Then I saw another ninja on the server one day and decided that he was so much more badass than the guys in plate, he was almost as badly geared as I was and he was racking kills. (It was Ninja_Thomek, who has been a 2h/thrower hybrid since forever, btw)
So my second buy was a katana.

This is what I look like on any given day, and I don't mean to sound like Bjord, but I do think most people believe that I can hold my own just aswell as any plate guy:

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This mod offers you a chance to create a unique character. The idea is not that everyone should strive for the biggest most badassest armour around. The idea is that you make a character. I made mine in august 2010 and I still play him today.

Last EDIT: If you're unsure of what specs to do, search the beginner's help section. There's been countless of threads where people have asked for different builds and they're nearly always answered by veterans of the game and nearly all the builds there are viable.

[Vibe]

What is this whining then? They even added a lowbie server recently. And even then player skill is the factor. Don't have skill? Go native beginner servers.

[Gnjus]

I died a helluvalot in the beginning because I was a clueless moron

That has changed during these last 2 years ? I should play more.....

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Sorry, just couldn't resist. 

This mod offers you a chance to create a unique character. The idea is not that everyone should strive for the biggest most badassest armour around.

Indeed.
@ OP: Just grab a Kuyak and you'll do fine, everyone will recognize you as soon as you spawn on the battlefield and they'll cheer you like as a hero. 

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Hey all!

New player here. I've been playing for a few days now and I'd like to comment on some things on why I actually stopped playing. There are some issues with this game that make picking it up and playing fresh almost impossible in its current state.

First off: Why is there such a large gap from the top to the bottom? Even with the level 30 boost I still have nothing compared to others. I even saw some people getting removed from servers for not wanting to blindly rush into death countless times. Is there a reason this game allows people with hardly anything to play with people who are completely decked? Maybe I am missing something here, but I feel no immersion being completely trampled game after game just trying to get ahead. I understand that it's an RPG but if I can't get a fair matching or fight back at least somewhat then I'm going to feel robbed and probably end up quitting before I get to end game (like my friends did).

second: Why is character creation so confusing? I pretty much wasted every stat point trying to build what I wanted, to find out my build is almost useless unless I go cookie cutter and put all my points into one skill. Why wouldn't you just tell beginning players this? Are you trying to make the game harder for beginners? Once again I'm lost on the motive.


 In my vast game experience, you try to get people hooked before giving them a challenge and not just completely start them downhill, expecting them to wade through shit dying 100 times to get one cheap upgrade in the hopes that at some point it will be playable and fair. Just my 2c.

Hybrid builds take skill. There are plenty of good solid builds and guides in the guide section.

This game has a learning cliff. We could put you in full plate at lvl 35 and you would still get your arse handed to you over and over again, so is the nature of this kind of game.

A veteran will beat a new player every time unless they cut back there options to something like a stick but even then, even then!

It's up to you what type of build and gear you want to use. If you want to run around in full plate with a flamburg read a guide on how to get that done. This game takes time and effort to learn.

Now where is my sandwich bitch!

[Ninja_Khorin]

That has changed during these last 2 years ? I should play more.....

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Sorry, just couldn't resist. 

I love you too, Gnjus.

And I realize ninja isn't the most unique of styles, but I customized my looks with my head and on insisting I'd be a pure 2hander. Before I joined most ninjas were 2h/thrower hybrids.

[Minx]

I'm not sure why this hasn't been mentioned but EU5 is a lowbie server for level 1-20s.

You might get lag playing there (depending where you're from) but with the lower level characters, 1.5 times experience gain and the 15k equipment limit you might find its an easier place to start.

[Murmillus_Prime]

If we all played games starting from the end, there wouldn't be much of a game to play, I think you need more patience.

[Miwiw]

Regarding the difficult skill system, it is always good if people first visit the forums and read about the skills if the description on the site is not sufficient.
For me who I played native warband and mount&blade before for a longer time, I knew the stats before what was needed for each class. Still I of course checked some guides on the forums so I knew I couldn't do much wrong.
However my first 2 builds were kinda crap of course... 

If you like the game, dont give up easily.

[PanPan]

My first build was Archer with PS and it was awesome. But I always was angry on the Finn be glad that you never met him.

[Phew]

When I first started this game, I made some sort of archer hybrid, and I think I got to at least level 20 without a single kill. So I respecced to polearm, and noticed getting kills with a long melee weapon is much easier than archery.

Get a long weapon then follow good players around. You'll have fun, actually provide some useful support for your team, and get better pretty fast. Also, play siege, not battle. It's easier to improve when you respawn every  3-30s.

I'm Gen 11, and people I've never seen before, with no heirlooms, wreck me all the time. All the heirlooms in the world don't matter if your swings get blocked.