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Please do something regarding DTV
« on: June 19, 2012, 02:17:52 pm »
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Please, change the fighting behaviour of bots, it's so fucking annoying and confusing.

It'd be great if you removed things like them constantly backpedalling or having a higher chance of knockdown. Especially their chambering skill (happens they chamber up to 50%) has to be restricted causing many deaths.

Please keep this serious.

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 02:19:31 pm »
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O no, did you get killed by a bot? It takes courage to admit that publicly, i'll give you that.

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 02:32:10 pm »
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Please, change the fighting behaviour of bots, it's so fucking annoying and confusing.

It'd be great if you removed things like them constantly backpedalling or having a higher chance of knockdown. Especially their chambering skill (happens they chamber up to 50%) has to be restricted causing many deaths.

Please keep this serious.

U gotta be kidding me ? Bot spams because they attack when they can reach u, that can be used in ur favour. Use footwork to own their ass then. And to avoid chambering, all u have to do is hold ur strike for a little bit, then attack. Simple.
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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 02:53:07 pm »
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If they're backpedaling you, all you have to do is stop chasing them, they will approach you. Unless they want to be smart and go straight for the virgin.
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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 03:34:40 pm »
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They need to reduce upkeep costs in DTV. I have made it very very far recently, and gotten many kills with no deaths, but still you get a reward of 300gold but my sword's upkeep is more than that. Even if I wear my worst armor, worst shield, and worst sword my upkeep costs are still more than the reward. I don't mind the small XP bonus, I'm having fun, but if I lose money so fast I can't play

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 03:38:04 pm »
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Didn't the devs say they werent going to work on DTV anymore?

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 03:38:57 pm »
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just make it defend the village = everything fixed
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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 06:37:57 pm »
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They need to reduce upkeep costs in DTV. I have made it very very far recently, and gotten many kills with no deaths, but still you get a reward of 300gold but my sword's upkeep is more than that. Even if I wear my worst armor, worst shield, and worst sword my upkeep costs are still more than the reward. I don't mind the small XP bonus, I'm having fun, but if I lose money so fast I can't play

Repair cost isn't a problem at all anymore, out of all game modes I have to pay least repair in DTV. Seems you stopped playing it for 2 months or so since both rewards exp and gold are quite decent, in relation to the repair cost you even get too much gold imo.

Main problem is the bots now. We have had debates that bots are quite overpowered, ok, but their fighting stile is even more ludicrous.

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2012, 06:39:17 pm »
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Bots are a problem, sure, but like I said, if my weapon repair costs exceed the gold reward, it's too much. Even basic crossbow upkeep is 700, so I can't use sword and a crossbow. I basically would have to use worst shield, worst crossbow, bad sword, and peasant armor to avoid losing money

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 06:42:31 pm »
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It's quite normal that you have to pay more money than you get sometimes. Where's the difference in other game modes? You won't come over 700 gold there each round too if you don't have x4/x5.

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 06:44:17 pm »
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Yea... as far as i know the bots are direct from native, aside from the stats and gear loadout, i doubt any of the devs worked on AI behavior.  I highly doubt anyone is going to fix anything about the bots.

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2012, 06:47:27 pm »
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Yea... as far as i know the bots are direct from native, aside from the stats and gear loadout, i doubt any of the devs worked on AI behavior.  I highly doubt anyone is going to fix anything about the bots.

Make them nerf the upkeep in DTV and I'll be happy

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2012, 10:41:00 pm »
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U gotta be kidding me ? Bot spams because they attack when they can reach u, that can be used in ur favour. Use footwork to own their ass then. And to avoid chambering, all u have to do is hold ur strike for a little bit, then attack. Simple.

Actually, they are pretty damn good at riposting held attacks too.  Something I will never fully get used to.  Though I think you're talking about already being within their range.  In that case holding your attack will work on the bots with slower weapons but the dagger-wielders and such will just hit you with their spamming if you try to hold.  They are by far the most annoying because you don't have the luxury of holding your attacks and their pissant daggers are too fast to block or counter-riposte a riposte from.

Holding your attack may also allow the bot column to get too close for comfort.  You don't want them so close that the guy behind your target is within his weapon range.  Otherwise he'll tend to swing through his buddy's corpse the instant you kill him; which is often too soon after your own attack to be blockable.  And if your hit doesn't kill your target he'll just walk through his still-living buddy and get you that way.

I find the best countermeasure is to spam overheads and try to be quick enough about it to counter-riposte their ripostes.  Just be sure to keep your distance as best you can.  Longer weapons are golden in DTV.

Bots are a problem, sure, but like I said, if my weapon repair costs exceed the gold reward, it's too much. Even basic crossbow upkeep is 700, so I can't use sword and a crossbow. I basically would have to use worst shield, worst crossbow, bad sword, and peasant armor to avoid losing money

This.  While the gold reward was greatly increased recently it is still inferior to other modes on a gold-per-minute basis.  I know I don't make any money with my 26.5k gear set.  In fact, I've lost about 20k over the past month.  It doesn't really matter to me but some of the newer players may be getting hosed by this. 

Myself, I'd play battle or siege if I weren't so burned out right now and could deal with the constant team-hitting...  There's just something attractive to the simplicity of the DTV mode and the wanton slaughter of bot hordes...
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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2012, 10:44:37 pm »
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1. reduce slot per server to 20, and make 2 servers if possible

2. rebalance slot that bots use, exp.  tincan has morningstar , bec , longbow and arrows..

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Re: Please do something regarding DTV
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2012, 12:12:22 am »
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I'd rather they try and make a fix on bots passing/attacking through each other when you hit the first in line.

Currently when you hit the first bot and there's another behind it the 2nd one will pass through the first one and if it was going to swing, the swing passes through hitting you (If your in range) since you can't block so fast just after you finished a swing.

Bots are still using the same stats when we had no upkeep and shit of course they are over powered but that what makes it more fun apart of the problem I pointed out.