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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2012, 01:01:31 pm »
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[...]book of giberish.
There are several books. Not just one caused thousands of deaths... just saying.
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2012, 01:04:32 pm »
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Yes because the same amount of Americans would have no problem bombing "dem towelheads" if the people there acted like decent human beings, right? Propaganda, even the crudest form of it, must be fed with something and the guys there do an excellent job fueling it almost by themselves.

Because you know what? I consider myself a pacifist person but even I would probably feel not too sorry if a random sandperson got killed after they burn my flag twice a day.

Also, just so you know, what people think matters even if places like Iran. Propaganda exists for a reason because, in the end of the day, if nobody supports a regime it will collapse in a day.

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Which one do you think will change american policy more:
One letter to Obama where people very kindly ask him to leave their nation and let them be in peace, or thousands of people marching in Kabul shouting Death to America, burning their flags and attacking any US troops there?

If every single one of then wrote a single letter, asking the US to leave and stopped blowing themselves up, the US troops would leave by the end of the month. Do you really doubt that? Now, the influence would remain, sure, but the various countries could actually start having a functional country.
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2012, 01:06:02 pm »
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They get pissed off for the same reason you get pissed off if somebody would seriously call your mother a cocksucking whore. I mean, it is just a word right? So why get offended?
Don't do what you wouldn't like others to do to you is the golden rule for a reason.


i dont getting pissed of if my mother or my country get insultet same i dont care if i getting insulted , aslong its not killing me i dont care about words or deeds noone hurts
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2012, 01:10:13 pm »
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If every single one of then wrote a single letter, asking the US to leave and stopped blowing themselves up, the US troops would leave by the end of the month. Do you really doubt that? Now, the influence would remain, sure, but the various countries could actually start having a functional country.

Yes I really doubt that, do you really think the USA would give away their military influence in the middle east that easily? Wasn't the main reason for the Iraq invasion the removal of Saddam, he's gone now, why not leave? Wasn't the main reason for the afghanistan invasion the removal of Bin Laden? He's gone, why not leave? They worked so hard, influenced so many people, spent so much money, spend so many lives, no way they are giving that away.

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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2012, 01:11:35 pm »
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Because you know what? I consider myself a pacifist person but even I would probably feel not too sorry if a random sandperson got killed after they burn my flag twice a day.


so you wanna tell, that an human life is lesser worth as and litle piece of textile????



EDIT: the usa is full of propaganda to i mean  saying every arabian is the pure evil , and then wondering if they get pissed off? iran want nuclear missels....they just upped it one level to 30% for nuclear missles you need 80% enriched uran...... and whats about that  virus thats a very huge spyware and not used to get the whole money suff and is mostly infecting atom power plants(its an 20 mb big virus with 20 plugins)? and the researcher that register at the UN authority what getting srsly all after murdered? americans want keep country low so they cant be indipendent. i wont wonder if you war them soon in the next 1-4 years  with a reason like they attacked any outpost in poland ( if you know about what i aim)
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2012, 02:19:02 pm »
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Funny, these people are mad at the USA for invading their country

Not one of the people in those pics was ever in a situation where America was attacking them. They're probably just pissed because someone dared to draw a caricature of Mohammed or pissed all over the Koran, you know, easy ways for the common people to show their opinion about something, because you can't have reasoned intelligent debate with religious fanatics, so you might as well show them what you think of their fairy tale yes?
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2012, 02:20:07 pm »
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USA caused so much damage in the muslim countrys, not only directly by war also by coups and sanctions etc. I think most people dont even know that the USA made Saddam Hussein dictator of Iraq, likewise shit for other countrys down there..

So be lucky they burn us flags and not citizens.

Personally I wouldn't care at all, if someone would burn a flag of the german banana republic :)

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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2012, 02:20:42 pm »
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I dont think burning a nations flag is fun,doing it desrespects the blood that has been spilled for that flag,the dead and the history of that nation.The flag is something holy to those that have ideals and love their nation,and noone can disgrace it in such a way,even if he is an enemy.

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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2012, 02:24:48 pm »
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The only thing more satisfying than the american reaction to a burnt flag is the muslim reaction to a burnt book.

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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2012, 02:24:52 pm »
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I dont think burning a nations flag is fun,doing it desrespects the blood that has been spilled for that flag,the dead and the history of that nation.The flag is something holy to those that have ideals and love their nation,and noone can disgrace it in such a way,even if he is an enemy.

I disagree, I think it's free speech, but so is using the Koran as toilet paper or saying Mohammed was the son of a whore. One is perfectly acceptable to them, the other isn't. The act of burning the flag itself isn't what angers me so much as the blatant hypocrisy.
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2012, 03:08:34 pm »
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2012, 03:48:40 pm »
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We all think you're an idiot?
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2012, 04:30:55 pm »
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Personally I wouldn't care at all, if someone would burn a flag of the german banana republic :)

Didn't some Greek burn a German flag recently? Yes, in February. So funny to see at the news. :D
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Re: burn dat flag
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2012, 04:53:20 pm »
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Funniest thing I find about that video is in the first few comments. It just displays how horribly misguided and ignorant all sides are. Muslim fanatics act on a book which isn't even related to the Quran. In the Quran it explicitly says that it is the holy book and the only one that should be followed, yet a large amount of muslims follow a book made of a series of chapters, written a long time after, that is essentially a narrative of Mohammed's life (sound familiar  :wink:) of which there are several conflicting versions. There is a big bloody difference between a book 'sent by God' and a book written by people about someones life and the laws he followed centuries after that person was alive. When reading the Quran it is honestly a book of peace. There is very little to condone acts of violence except in very specific cases and I've read the majority of it. It's just a lot of misguided ignorance spurred on by propaganda from specific people who know how to incite people to do extreme things.

But on the other side there are also westerners who spout crap like this 'Never forget that Osama Bin Laden is a hero to them. A Muslim is a follower of a totalitarian ideology that disguises itself as religion, to enjoy tolerance and Freedom in societies Islam has seeked to destroy for centuries.'. I mean wtf really? There are millions of muslims of the world, the ones causing trouble are a very small minority in the real context and there are millions which live peacefully and happily. It's equally the propaganda of the media and other controlling sources.

All I can do is just sit back and shake my head at the laugh-ability of it all because if people woke up a little and did some of their own reading/research they'd actually see right through all of it.

And for those who don't know what I mean (pulled from Wiki but it'll do):
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Traditions of the life of Muhammad and the early history of Islam were passed down mostly orally for more than a hundred years after Muhammad's death in AD 632. Muslim historians say that Caliph Uthman ibn Affan (the third khalifa (caliph) of the Rashidun Empire, or third successor of Muhammad, who had formerly been Muhammad's secretary), is generally believed to urge Muslims to record the hadith just as Muhammad suggested to some of his followers to write down his words and actions.[13][14]

Uthman's labours were cut short by his assassination, at the hands of aggrieved soldiers, in 656. No sources survive directly from this period so we are dependent on what later writers tell us about this period.[15]

By the 9th century the number of hadiths had grown exponentially. Islamic scholars of the Abbasid period were faced with a huge corpus of miscellaneous traditions, some of them flatly contradicting each other. Many of these traditions supported differing views on a variety of controversial matters. Scholars had to decide which hadith were to be trusted as authentic and which had been invented for political or theological purposes. To do this, they used a number of techniques which Muslims now call the science of hadith.[16]
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