Polearms

[Baggy]

Use a Pike instead.

[pepejul]

Bamboo spear is fast, long, op and only 2 slot weapon...... I like it

[Baldr]

Bamboo spear is fast, long, op and only 2 slot weapon...... I like it

Its even weaker then Longspear, its a fun weapon to play with but with 25p 14b its a good support weapon; but 200 length and any experienced cav will be able to lance you. if Long spear was 2 slotted it would be great, but the extra 45 length makes it 3 slotted apperently.

But it is a good secondary weapon, and the overhead makes it useful in melee.

[pepejul]

I dream about a telescopic bamboo long pike 

[Vkvkvk]

Its even weaker then Longspear, its a fun weapon to play with but with 25p 14b its a good support weapon; but 200 length and any experienced cav will be able to lance you. if Long spear was 2 slotted it would be great, but the extra 45 length makes it 3 slotted apperently.

But it is a good secondary weapon, and the overhead makes it useful in melee.

Long weapons like the pike/longspear/bamboo spear SHOULD be used as support weapons, so your argument that it's only good as a support weapon is a bit stupid.

Also, just bring a shitty arena shield on your back and when you're fighting cavalry, have fun with your 250 reach.

[Idzo]

Long weapons like the pike/longspear/bamboo spear SHOULD be used as support weapons, so your argument that it's only good as a support weapon is a bit stupid.

Also, just bring a shitty arena shield on your back and when you're fighting cavalry, have fun with your 250 reach.

I agree with shield thing but that makes you defenseless hoplite.
1vs1 with bamboo in your hands give you some chances, with shield you're screwed 

[Vkvkvk]

I agree with shield thing but that makes you defenseless hoplite.
1vs1 with bamboo in your hands give you some chances, with shield you're screwed 

Put shield on back. It's not like the shield is glued to your hands.

Which is actually why Hoplite is one of my favorite build and I find it the most versatile easily.

Archers/Crossbows? Shield up.
Support? You've probably got at minimum a 150 lenght polearm that has 200 reach on the stab.
Horses? Same as above.
Infantry? Shield on back, go stab happy.

I understand that the bamboo spear is probably not the best in melee situations but that's what it should be, not all weapons are supposed to do good at straight on melee and the fact that long weapons like the pike and longspear have been for so long is ridiculous.

Which is also why I love the warspear better for hoplite builds.

[Idzo]

Put shield on back. It's not like the shield is glued to your hands.

Which is actually why Hoplite is one of my favorite build and I find it the most versatile easily.

Archers/Crossbows? Shield up.
Support? You've probably got at minimum a 150 lenght polearm that has 200 reach on the stab.
Horses? Same as above.
Infantry? Shield on back, go stab happy.

I understand that the bamboo spear is probably not the best in melee situations but that's what it should be, not all weapons are supposed to do good at straight on melee and the fact that long weapons like the pike and longspear have been for so long is ridiculous.

Which is also why I love the warspear better for hoplite builds.

put shield on back = slow as shit.

with 5 ath and heavy equimpent i'm way too slow, putting  shield on my back would be suicide...

[Baldr]

Long weapons like the pike/longspear/bamboo spear SHOULD be used as support weapons, so your argument that it's only good as a support weapon is a bit stupid.

Also, just bring a shitty arena shield on your back and when you're fighting cavalry, have fun with your 250 reach.

WTH are you talking about? Make sense, man!

[Idzo]

WTH are you talking about? Make sense, man!

actually it does. When you take for example: bamboo with shield it has longer reach than bamboo without shield...

[Baldr]

actually it does. When you take for example: bamboo with shield it has longer reach than bamboo without shield...

That's animation fail...

...Oh your a troll, should have known.

[oprah_winfrey]

That's animation fail...

...Oh your a troll, should have known.

If you use a polearm with a shield you hild it with 1 hand, and the polearm is longer

[pepejul]

I dream about 2H shield..... 

[Vkvkvk]

put shield on back = slow as shit.

with 5 ath and heavy equimpent i'm way too slow, putting  shield on my back would be suicide...

Use lighter equipment and get more ATH, not because YOU have medium ATH and heavy armor that we should catter only to YOU and if you're too slow with a shield on your back that it's not a viable option.

I always play hoplites at 18/21 or 18/18 using med armor and I just use a light-ish shield, like elite cavalry shield.

I wouldn't say if it was a huge huscarl or a heavy board shield, but it's not. Besides, arena shields are extremely light, the impact on your speed will be absolutely minimal.

Pretty sure the speed penalty for shields on the back also comes from their weight.

That's animation fail...

...Oh your a troll, should have known.

That's not an animation fail, you're either a bad troll or possibly a very stupid human being, the latter most likely.

A polearm such as the bamboo spear with a shield will be using the one handed thrust instead of the polearm thrust. One handed thrust adds +50 reach ontop of the actual weapon's lenght compared to the lower reach on polearm stab animation.

There's a GREAT difference between animation fail and actual game mechanic that was implemented with exactly that (different animation reach) in mind.

[Baggy]

That's animation fail...

...Oh your a troll, should have known.

Your a fail all around.