Make couching harder.

[Mlekce]

Can you make couching a lance more hard then it is now because that require no skill,only fast horse and enemy inf distracted. 
It would be nice if lance could move making harder for lancer to actualy hit the target. Lance now just stand still so even bigginer can couch,
 

[oprah_winfrey]

pushing X is hard.

[bruce]

WWWWWX gaming is great. Especially when you pick up someone right on spawn and then he can twiddle his thumbs for the next 5 minutes. Funniest when it's some idiotic small map and you can ride to other spawn in 10 seconds max, couch someone and then run away/die. 

[Penitent]

Couch is really easy to dodge, even on accident.
If you couch someone, it's easy to kill them.  But it's not THAT easy to couch someone.

[Mlekce]

Bich please. They only couch when you fight other infrantery and you are distracted,or they couch you in some flat map with that champ courser when you are not aware enough. I looked behind me,then i moved mouse to look on my left side and then i got lance in back. He came from nowhere.

[BlueKnight]

Bich please. They only couch when you fight other infrantery and you are distracted,or they couch you in some flat map with that champ courser when you are not aware enough. I looked behind me,then i moved mouse to look on my left side and then i got lance in back. He came from nowhere.

I see you're not an attention whore. Poor you

[CrazyCracka420]

Can you make couching a lance more hard then it is now because that require no skill,only fast horse and enemy inf distracted. 
It would be nice if lance could move making harder for lancer to actualy hit the target. Lance now just stand still so even bigginer can couch,

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[PhantomZero]

Can you make couching a lance more hard then it is now because that require no skill,only fast horse and enemy inf distracted. 
It would be nice if lance could move making harder for lancer to actualy hit the target. Lance now just stand still so even bigginer can couch,

The joke is on you because the lance does move when in couch mode.  A couched lance doesn't even hurt that much anymore, can take like 2-3 to kill a tincan.

[Zisa]

Just remove couch from all except couch only lances.

[Kafein]

Just remove couch from all except couch only lances.

I'm not sure you really understand the probable consequences of this.

[Leshma]

Cavalry won't be kings of k/d anymore, that's what will happen.

[Zisa]

I'm not sure you really understand the probable consequences of this.

Oh but I do.

Also:
- denerf lance attack radius.
- half horse bump damage.
- make horseman stagger when horse gets hit.

Trust me I do.

[Vkvkvk]

Cavalry won't be kings of k/d anymore, that's what will happen.

I'm pretty sure their K/D also comes majorly from stabbing and not only couching.

I find that stabbing is worse than couch when I play against Cavalry, atleast when they couch, it requires the Cavalry to stay at a high speed, meanwhile with a stab, they can just turn on a dime every .1 seconds and stab you from a stationary position and still do shitload of damage.

But I agree, one way you have a stab that does a shitload of damage with turn on a dime mountain goats and on the other you have a backstab attack that one hit kill you.

Cavalry to me feels a bit like archery, the reward vs risk is high:slim, you can easily get kills without much effort and it's even worse that you can get one hit kill on Backstabs when even Meleeist can't do that and it requires you to get real close and personal.

[Baggy]

Cavalry won't be kings of k/d anymore, that's what will happen.

You've never played Cav have you...

[bruce]

Thinking about it, the best change would be slashing horse HP by a third and set armour of all unarmoured horses to something minimal... say, 5. Then make more open maps, random plains and such, less town circle running nonsense and less maps where you can ride to their spawn in 10s and couch someone for lols. 

The benefit is twofold, battles looking like actual battles, and ranged countering cavalry reasonably effectively while having their effectiveness vs infantry unchanged.

If anyone is worried about ranged cavalry countering normal cavalry too well with it, you could make HA skill be every 9 agi. Debatable if it would be needed. And give old lance radius on spears, please

Bump damage is fine, people jumping into horse's face before bump damage nerfs to avoid being hit was retarded.