why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?

[Aleskander]

Blindguy, your pretty narrow-minded dude

You've built up your opinion of the world, as evidence by your 2 page essay, and that's good for you, but you seem to pretty much shut out everyone else. Your posts do contain a good amount of truth, but you've distorted it to make it seem in your favor whether you know it or not.

I do agree with a lot of what you say, but the whole anarchist thing is kin of, well, stupid. Most(read all) of the anarchists I know would be the first ones to get the ass-kicked out of them by a navy seal if anarchy ever did come around.

[Svitjodvarg]

Blindguy, your pretty narrow-minded dude

You've built up your opinion of the world, as evidence by your 2 page essay, and that's good for you, but you seem to pretty much shut out everyone else. Your posts do contain a good amount of truth, but you've distorted it to make it seem in your favor whether you know it or not.

I do agree with a lot of what you say, but the whole anarchist thing is kin of, well, stupid. Most(read all) of the anarchists I know would be the first ones to get the ass-kicked out of them by a navy seal if anarchy ever did come around.

''Anarchists'' Is just a bunch of kids. and women.

[Aleskander]

Well then what I said still applies 

[BlindGuy]

''Anarchists'' Is just a bunch of kids. and women.

Unfortunatly, like most words, it is misused, and like most philosofies and social, political, musical, military, tactical, emotional or any other alignment or organisation (or lack thereof), silly people who havent the first clue about it claim it as theirs, flock to it. Not to mention it is siezed on like many other "fringe" things by corporate bullshit salesmen to sell t-shirts and the like.

... your 2 page essay

...Most(read all) of the anarchists I know would be the first ones to get the ass-kicked out of them by a navy seal if anarchy ever did come around.

1/ You must have HUGE fonts

2/ really? I dont doubt that a man of military background could kick a yuppies ass, but do you really know any anarchists? I have yet to meet another one. I see plenty of scrawny fuckers in the pub with a large A with a circle around it, but that no more makes them an anarchist than me wrapping myself in tinfoil and claiming I'm a baked potato makes me a tuber. I really am prepared to defend what I love, I have a lifetime of skills society deems as useless outside of full-on zombie apocalypse, a decade of collecting items I am loathe to admit to owning (I currently live in a legally restrictive country, my property would definitly get me very long stay at her Majesty's pleasure), and little reguard for the sanctity of life of anyone who invades what I consider as my domain. I would not claim to be an anarchist if I didn't understand what it TRULY means. Remember, I am from Spain, we fully brought to it's current peak the philosophy of "You have what you can hold". In the civil war, large areas declared for anarchism, and society didnt "break down", everyone got on with it, just without outside control, fully aware that no system of control will ever be truly in the best interests of all as long as humans are in a position to dictate to other humans, seeing as how we are all flawed, greedy, selfish shites. We are. If you dont believe this, you have either never had a position of power, or never been in a position of urgent need. Rising above this is what makes great people great, but very few of us have that level of altruism.

The one thing that does annoy me about the UK is any institution is to 'guilty' over the empire to warrant doing anything remotely worth while ever again.

This is something I have thought many times too. When it was done "For Empire", a few people achieved amazing things, and weighed on average, really did improve life for everyone.

[Tibe]

After reading Blindguys "essay" or "report" BE very scared of the chinese....VERY! Its not impossible that 1 day we are making Nikes for them.

Threads still about Berenger and USA. I quess he was born there, thats why he likes it. When u are born in a decent country, you will still kinda love it nomadder where u go. I remember when I read a thread about an american who didnt like the town I currently live in. I remember his main concerns where that there isnt enough fast food restaurants here and lots of other pointless things. Pretty much entire post was about how its just not USA enough.

You know after reading alot etc....im kinda suprised that people in USA and Russia seem very much alike. The countries are not, but the people are. Lots of corruption, huge patriotism, demanding that every1 spoke their language or had their beliefs, knowing normally only 1 language, religion has a huge role, ignorance. I quess, these things happen when u have a huge empire to rule, you loose efficiency.

[Oberyn]

Blind, it just sounds like you had a completely unrealistic expectation for humanity and you feel betrayed after realizing that human nature is a constant and won't change just because a few people are ridiculously idealistic.
Blame whoever taught you that if you really really wanted to you could change everything in the world, including people, and pony's would fart rainbows and everyone would get along and justice and peace would reign forevah. If geopolitics have changed at all it isn't because of idealism, just because of context. People are no different biologically than they have been for at least a hundred thousand years. Your ideology fails, just like every ideology that bases itself on completely changing the way people behave. You may have the right philosophy but you have the wrong people. Maybe if humans were more like ants it would be more appropriate.
And I'm not sure how you can say spanish anarchism was in any way successful or a positive. How is a brutal civil war with extreme military intervention by foreign powers not a total breakdown of "society"? It led, very naturally, to extreme reactionism, and then extreme stagnation, culturally and economically, for decades. If it wasn't for the EU and it's integration of the country in it's economic system Spain would still be the isolated, closed-in third world country it was under Franco.

[BlindGuy]

...and pony's would fart rainbows...

You trying to tell me they dont?!

...If it wasn't for the EU and it's integration of the country in it's economic system Spain would still be the isolated, closed-in third world country it was under Franco.

Much has changed, but outside of the Provincial capitals, it still is a third world country. Oh, large areas where English is the main language, every restaurant servers only "Full English" and very fat very redskinned ppl complain about the locals, even though they obviosuly only meet the scammers, since why would anyone not trying to exploit them want to hang out with such ppl as these?

Oh well, I honestly remember when there were more equus africanus asinuss than lorries, but even though those days are gone, the people in the country are still "peasants" and it's hard to change that in just two generations.

But this is beside the point. There is no meaning to life, past just that, Life. It just disgusts me that to improve your own, in a greed based society, you have to ultimately do someone over or get the better of them. I dont know a better way that would work, but is it wrong of me to want one?

BTW, there wasnt economic stagnation: Franco and his cronies got VERY rich indeed. Such is the way of dictatorships.

[Oberyn]

You trying to tell me they dont?!


Much has changed, but outside of the Provincial capitals, it still is a third world country. Oh, large areas where English is the main language, every restaurant servers only "Full English" and very fat very redskinned ppl complain about the locals, even though they obviosuly only meet the scammers, since why would anyone not trying to exploit them want to hang out with such ppl as these?

Oh well, I honestly remember when there were more equus africanus asinuss than lorries, but even though those days are gone, the people in the country are still "peasants" and it's hard to change that in just two generations.

But this is beside the point. There is no meaning to life, past just that, Life. It just disgusts me that to improve your own, in a greed based society, you have to ultimately do someone over or get the better of them. I dont know a better way that would work, but is it wrong of me to want one?

BTW, there wasnt economic stagnation: Franco and his cronies got VERY rich indeed. Such is the way of dictatorships.

Concentration of wealth in cronies and corruption IS economic stagnation. Just because a few dozen people lived like kings didn't change anything about wealth redistribution or technological progress in the rest of the country.
And it's not wrong of someone to dream of a "better" way, but if that better way obviously doesn't work, it may be time to take a different approach. Or even recognize that despite all of it's flaws this "greed" based life fits almost seamlessly with human nature. My approach is to take human nature, with all the positives and negatives it entails, as a fait accompli, and then try to build a more moral or just system around that. Trying to fit people into theoretical constructs has never worked.

[BlindGuy]

Concentration of wealth in cronies and corruption IS economic stagnation. Just because a few dozen people lived like kings didn't change anything about wealth redistribution or technological progress in the rest of the country.

I know it supposed to be like a ironic "Such is life" style dig at fascist pocket liners...

As to your idea of morality and justice: Ultimately, you will get what you can pay for, if you can afford morality and can pay for justice, you might get it. That is how we live currently.

[Oberyn]

I know it supposed to be like a ironic "Such is life" style dig at fascist pocket liners...

As to your idea of morality and justice: Ultimately, you will get what you can pay for, if you can afford morality and can pay for justice, you might get it. That is how we live currently.

When has it ever been any different? If anything the ammount of people with access to that possibility today is proportionally much greater than it has ever been in the past. And growing.

[BlindGuy]

While this is true, ask any lawyer who is a realist, they will tell you, they call it "The Justice Game" because that is what it is. And like any game, the team with the most cash for players and gear usually wins.

[CrazyCracka420]

Not going too in depth here, and haven't read many posts...

America is far from perfect.  Although it's a pretty good place to live (at least where I live).  Housing prices and salaries/wages drastically change from state to state and within states, from city to city.  We have a government who spies on their people and has had presidential approval on assassinating American citizens.  We have a prison industrial complex that is not going away (so many corporations, government departments, and people rely on this to make money).  We are still debating and heavily divided when it comes to rights of people who are different than yourself (gay marriage comes to mind).  We don't have a lot of manufacturing, and most of our money is made from the service industries and from the financial markets.  Corporations basically control our politicians with legal bribes (aka contributions).

That being said, it's not a terrible place to live either.  If you don't stand out in the crowd you're not going to have to worry about the NSA spying on you (I hate the "if you have nothing to hide, then what's the problem" reasoning that fascist boot lickers use to justify the rights of our citizens being violated).  It's not hard to avoid going to prison...when the older generation continues to die out, things like gay marriage (equality for all) will be passed into law, and things like the drug prohibition (which has failed miserably) will slowly fade away (prohibition was tried once before in America and it was a resounding failure, people still used the outlawed drug, and organized crime became rich from it).  If you know where to live, you can live in the suburbs for relatively cheap, and get paid good money working in the larger cities.  I love that I live in a city, but I can drive 10 minutes and be surrounded by nature (and if I drive an hour I'm out in the wilderness).  We have lots of cool geography across the country.  Just in the state I live in, we have 10,000 + lakes, lots of rivers.  You'll notice the change even within one state.  If you drive from Southwest Minnesota where it's almost all flat lands, grasslands and prairie (and some rivers, not many lakes) to northern Minnesota you'll see the difference changing to heavily forested areas with lakes littering the landscape. 

A lot of our problems with the country stem from our ineffective political system.  The way people get elected is a huge problem, and the way bills are passed is a huge problem (there's too much pork and not enough accountability).  Election reform is necessary to see real change in America, and changing it so that only one issue per bill is allowed (no pork, if you want to use federal money to build a playground in Missouri, then put up a bill for it), will greatly improve the country.

[Tibe]

Concentration of wealth in cronies and corruption IS economic stagnation. Just because a few dozen people lived like kings didn't change anything about wealth redistribution or technological progress in the rest of the country.

Obeyrn you are either a communist or a socialist based on that. Either way, its just your oppinion really. Wealth redistribution sounds good on paper...like communism does, but in reality its good for a few years, but eventually it crumbles the system, also the Soviet Union spoke alot about "technological progress" and they did send the first man in space. It all sounds good on paper, but in reality its all garbage.

Wellfare politics is all about wealth redistribution. Countries like Finand and Sweden where happy with that system a few years..but now they clearly see they fucked when gypsies, some africans and turks ran in there to freeload. In reality, system like that only works on fairytales.

Also Obeyrn how is everything u write always soo controversial? Are u some hippy conspiracy theoryst?

[Svitjodvarg]

Obeyrn you are either a communist or a socialist based on that. Either way, its just your oppinion really. Wealth redistribution sounds good on paper...like communism does, but in reality its good for a few years, but eventually it crumbles the system, also the Soviet Union spoke alot about "technological progress" and they did send the first man in space. It all sounds good on paper, but in reality its all garbage.

Wellfare politics is all about wealth redistribution. Countries like Finand and Sweden where happy with that system a few years..but now they clearly see they fucked when gypsies, some africans and turks ran in there to freeload. In reality, system like that only works on fairytales.

Also Obeyrn how is everything u write always soo controversial? Are u some hippy conspiracy theoryst?

He is some communist/anarchist kid who calls everyone who loves their country a chocolate chip cookie. We have plenty of them in europe.

[Oberyn]

Obeyrn you are either a communist or a socialist based on that. Either way, its just your oppinion really. Wealth redistribution sounds good on paper...like communism does, but in reality its good for a few years, but eventually it crumbles the system, also the Soviet Union spoke alot about "technological progress" and they did send the first man in space. It all sounds good on paper, but in reality its all garbage.

Wellfare politics is all about wealth redistribution. Countries like Finand and Sweden where happy with that system a few years..but now they clearly see they fucked when gypsies, some africans and turks ran in there to freeload. In reality, system like that only works on fairytales.

Also Obeyrn how is everything u write always soo controversial? Are u some hippy conspiracy theoryst?

How is what I write controversial or conspirational? I don't think wealth redistribution is inherently good so much as the redistribution of opportunity, which is sometimes different. You can't deny that a large part of what made the modern western world is a growing and influential middle class, where there only used to be the top and the rest. Capitalism and it's values helped to foster that middle class. Of course a lot of retards these days confuse capitalism with some kind of social darwinism survival of the fittest, which just demonstrates they can't even properly identify the mechanism they claim to worship as without fault.