Nerf Archery

[Arrowblood]

add some  good 0 slot weapons, and archers will  beat the shit out of you melee guys

[oprah_winfrey]

No, it really won't help in the slightest, you will just see a shift towards even more extreme ATH heavy builds.

Archers don't run because carrying a bow suddenly makes you want to play a running simulator, archers run because the community in it's infinite wisdom of punishing split wpf so much combined with the slot system combined with generally punishing hybrids in general combined with archery requiring a heavier focus in points due to previous nerf after nerf after nerf means archers have to run as they have garbage melee capabilities now and it is near-suicide to stay for the majority of any archery build oh god sentence run on make it stop...

The (na) fallen argument was always, I run because thats my build. You can have builds that have melee, such as 15/24 or 18/18, not to mention any archers over level 30 like yourself. Instead most archers tend to max out athletics because running away is easy mode.

I don't even have a problem with archers that want to do that, but what should be changed is that the speed penalty of running with your out drawn should be the same as those who have a sword/polearm drawn.

[Bulzur]

Builds that have melee such as an 18/18 at level 30 ?

Archers going for that are definitely asking to get their ass kicked by either range or cav.

Athletics is important for archers, not only for strategically retreating, but for :
-catching up to the main group, while being able to fire
-dodging others projectile
-quickly flanking ennemy infantry
-evading an enraged horse


Athletics is not only for kiting...

[oprah_winfrey]

Builds that have melee such as an 18/18 at level 30 ?

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 63
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 6
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed/Two Handed: 100
Archery: 135

You can play around with the wpf a bit. I wouldnt go below 130 archery and you probs can't go above 140 though.
I hope you are still able to do the following with one less athletics:

-catching up to the main group, while being able to fire
-dodging others projectile
-quickly flanking ennemy infantry
-evading an enraged horse

[Shieldoom]

Athletics is important for archers, not only for strategically retreating, but for :
-catching up to the main group, while being able to fire
-dodging others projectile
-quickly flanking ennemy infantry
-evading an enraged horse

All that you can do with 0 atl while wearing light armor

[Leshma]

No you can't. There is a tiny difference in speed between plate and peasant clothes if you have 3 agi and 0 ath.

[oprah_winfrey]

No you can't. There is a tiny difference in speed between plate and peasant clothes if you have 3 agi and 0 ath.

You really thing an archer is going to have 4 agi and 0 ath? The archers that arent melee or high ath kiting archers are usually something like 24/18, 21/21, 18/24 with 3 athletics.

EDIT: Even if they have 0 Ath, they will still have a lot of agi for WM and that makes you faster.

[Son Of Odin]

Nerf arsery

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not archery

[rabbit]

Just ban all of my old friends.

[karasu]

Amazin xD  Coming back to the game after a couple of months and people are still crying about archers^^

There is always a pariah in balancing systems where people deposit their frustrations after having a "bad day" ingame, my dear friend.  8)

[Penitent]

nerf larceny

[rabbit]

I can't kill best 2h in melee , but archer can kill him with 3 shoot , It's problem. NERF THEM

[Skurcey]

stop trolling kthx?

[Son Of Odin]

Still... Kebab...

[Memento_Mori]

Builds that have melee such as an 18/18 at level 30 ?

Archers going for that are definitely asking to get their ass kicked by either range or cav.

lulz, really tired of reading this crap but it is a good laugh.

Pure archers sacrifice a lot of "tricks" to be a legit one trick pony, and that one trick they can't even do much better than an 18/18 build or 15/21.

Was going to write a wall of text since this keeps showing up everywhere recently, but instead I'll just keep it at this.


On topic archery is fine, loomed archers maybe hit too hard and unloomed ones too little, but I'm guessing that's kinda how it's meant to be aha.