Admin arbitrariness

[Gardarika_pym]

Hello! Today i played on EU_2 and in one moment i kick Ninja_Khorin. What could be wrong with that? Kick in retort

But khorin kick me from server. Cool joke. I understand that kicking teammeats sometimes badly, but kicking from server - this is in any gate! In other topic my clanmate was bannet for a harmless duel on eu4 -  http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,33345.0.html

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I think he should be deprived of an admin rights corse administrators perform their work, not fun

[Ninja_Khorin]

You attempted to kick me down the walls. I was 1 inch from falling. That is teamhitting at best, attempt to teamkill at worst. That's why I kicked you.

[Gardarika_pym]

You did not fall, but I was kicked from the server. You could just walk up and kick, but you took advantage of their privileges ADMINISTRATOR simply a joke. Your excuses are stupid - answer me -  when a player breaks something - he got ban, and what to do with the administrator, which exceeds the authority?

[Ninja_Khorin]

You attempted to kick me down a wall. The outcome is irrelevant compared to the original intent.

I've kicked plenty of people who I see trying to kick archers down walls for example. Even if they fail, they still intended to do it.

And yes, I made a joke afterwards, because your clanmate seemed to find it funny.

[Gardarika_pym]

You not archer and you dont fall down. Аnd you gave me no warning or explanation why you kicked me - is it normal? No. Instead of dealing with the duties you have fun using the Admin password.

So answer me - what to do with the administrator, who breaks the rules?

[Ninja_Khorin]

When you're on the server it is assumed that you know the server rules. Kicks are considered warnings and it should be pretty obvious why you were kicked when I kick you a few seconds after you tried to kick me down a wall. According to the original post you do seem to know why I kicked you. What you apparently do not know is that attempted teamkills are punishable.

[Gardarika_pym]

Are you talking nonsense - I do not believe that you foresee that I will kill you. You just picked up and kicked me. it is tyranny.

And yes, I made a joke afterwards.

And more you agree that your actions - just kidding. You want to ban a duel for his offense and you do nothing. Why?

[Ninja_Khorin]

Are you talking nonsense - I do not believe that you foresee that I will kill you. You just picked up and kicked me. it is tyranny.

I was literally an inch from the edge. Only thing that saved me was that my guy didn't stumble that far due to what I was standing on. If you didn't mean to kick me down a wall, it was still a completely reckless action. I consider it highly unlikely that you wouldn't realize that I was standing on the edge of the wall and that kicking me would cause me to slide towards the edge.

And more you agree that your actions - just kidding.

The "I kicked back" was the joke. The actual kick was not a joke, it was a response to you kicking me and almost making me fall.

You want to ban a duel for his offense and you do nothing. Why?

I don't understand what this means.

[Gardarika_pym]

I killed you? - no
Are fall down? - no
Are you kick me from server? - yes
Why you kick me from server? - "The "I kicked back" was the joke" (C) Khorin

So in fact I did not commit a prohibited - and everything else that you write - your imagination. What you did - your proof of incompetence. You do not know how many people banned just for fun. My teammate banned for 4 days, and i think it's joke to. Admin joke. I do not like jokes of those who must stop these "jokes". Anban him and I close my topic.

[Ninja_Khorin]

I don't believe you fully understand what I'm writing or you're intentionally ignoring it, so I'm having a hard time discussing this.

Common sense should tell you that kicking people toward edges is not encouraged behaviour.

I cannot unban your friend. I cannot interfere with other admins decisions nor do I have any idea why he is banned.

[Gardarika_pym]

ok if I killed you, I would have understood why I was kicked from the server and nothing would be written on the forum, but you're not dead and you could not use the admin bonuses and just say - do not do that anymore. Why show that you're stupid admin? my idea clear?

[Ninja_Khorin]

First of all why kick people towards edges in the first place?

Secondly, a kick is a warning. And a kick is a warning that people tend to remember. The worst part about teamkills is not that the person died, especially if it's me, because I couldn't really care much less if I die, but the thought that a particular rule does not apply to them. And a rule like "Do not teamkill/grief/teamhit" is a fairly important rule that the person should remember.

Thirdly, this should actually be in the admin feedback thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17579.0.html

[Ptolemy]

Rule #1: Common sense.

It's common sense to me that if you kick someone near a wall, they're going to probably fall down and die. Intentional TK attempt = kickable, if not bannable.

Stop trying to make yourself look correct, you can't.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Go away, Nomin. This is not the thread you are looking for.

[Sir_Ironlake]

Lol yr lucky you didnt try that to me, id ban you.