Cavalry can bump and couch at the same time?

[EyeBeat]

How is it you can get horse bumped then couched in the same pass by the same rider?

If you dodge the couch you get horse bumped...  It is not possible that the lance can even hit you at that point...

This is a balance issue please fix it.

Not to mention horribly unrealistic.

[Son Of Odin]

It took you this long to find this out?

However not really common that this happens. I've done bump couch only handful of times successfully after I heard it is possible. And most of them successes were after I got to lvl 32, riding 7 and used the Arabian. Happened maybe once with courser even if I tried it quite many times during leveling.

[EyeBeat]

It took you this long to find this out?

However not really common that this happens. I've done bump couch only handful of times successfully after I heard it is possible. And most of them successes were after I got to lvl 32, riding 7 and used the Arabian. Happened maybe once with courser even if I tried it quite many times during leveling.

Yeah but it shouldn't happen.  They should look into it.

[Son Of Odin]

Yeah but it shouldn't happen.  They should look into it.

Just like buckler shouldn't block arrows, scimitars shouldn't hit before the model hit, HA/HX shouldn't be shooting through their own horse when they bump, 1h cavalry shouldn't be having that damn long ghost reach alongside countless things that aren't realistic in this game. It isn't really common enough to be a balance issue and I don't think that anyone can pull bump couch off when they want. It's more luck.

[Vibe]

Just like buckler shouldn't block arrows, scimitars shouldn't hit before the model hit, HA/HX shouldn't be shooting through their own horse when they bump, 1h cavalry shouldn't be having that damn long ghost reach alongside countless things that aren't realistic in this game. It isn't really common enough to be a balance issue and I don't think that anyone can pull bump couch off when they want. It's more luck.

Have to agree here and I've only been bumpcouched once in cRPG.

[Zisa]

Would be nice if couch was removed though (leave it for practise/great lance )

[Son Of Odin]

Would be nice if couch was removed though (leave it for practise/great lance )

Ah wouldn't you (and other haters) like that, huh?

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Zisa pls

[Zisa]

Ah wouldn't you (and other haters) like that, huh?

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Zisa pls

I hated it in the beta, I only couched cos it drove a guy nuts on vent.

It's a stupid mechanic, shouldn't happen without specialized heavy armor, and specialized lances.

I'd also prefer lance attack radius was de-fucked, but go ahead and believe I know nothing of cav, if you like.

[Revo142]

This happens about 1 in a million times. 

Yeah, its unrealistic when it does happen.  But Infantry doing superhuman jumps while simultaneously swinging their weapons at full strength with pinpoint accuracy to swipe the rider off a horse going 35mph without having their arms ripped out of the sockets and their necks snapped from being tossed and spun around in the air isn't quite realistic either 

[Zisa]

This happens about 1 in a million times. 

Yeah, its unrealistic when it does happen.  But Infantry doing superhuman jumps while simultaneously swinging their weapons at full strength with pinpoint accuracy to swipe the rider off a horse going 35mph without having their arms ripped out of the sockets and their necks snapped from being tossed and spun around in the air isn't quite realistic either 

huh? what are we talking about?

[San]

Hopefully there is a safe way to remove it without messing with the mechanics too much. Maybe make it so the hitbox is farther away from the rider or something? As others said, it's already a rare occurrence.

Anyways, if you get jump slashed, you guessed the positioning wrong or you just weren't good enough to space it correctly.

[Huey Newton]

It's really not very hard to do if you study it.
However i'm not going to tell anyone else how to do it, since its my special way of dealing with shielders 

[Leshma]

Couching with heavy lance is broken.

First moment I hit level 35 and put 3 points into riding I managed to find stray rouncey on the battlefield, pick up heavy lance (non-loomed) and kill fully armored enemy with a couched lance. We were playing on a map with a lot of small hills...

- 1 wpp in polearms
- 3 riding
- 20 mph at best

It's way too effective for an almost nonexistent price.

[Son Of Odin]

First moment I hit level 35 and put 3 points into riding I managed to find stray rouncey on the battlefield, pick up heavy lance (non-loomed) and kill fully armored enemy with a couched lance. We were playing on a map with a lot of small hills...

Gooby pls... Your argument is invalid. If I'd get 10 gold every time when someone says "I just took that horse and did this and that with it, lance is op goddamit do something because I could do that just like that it must be op do something fuck cav is easy, I tried it once" I would be rich..

[Miwiw]

Removing couch lance would weaken cav heavily. Couch lance is just part of the game as chamber for example is. I like having it in the game. You also have to notice that it is usually easy to avoid being couched unless you either don't care or get attacked from behind (in that casees it's your own fault).
The bump couch lance doesn't happen often so why remove it (or weaken it)?

If that would be removed something else should be heavily buffed for cav, e.g not let the horse ever get 1/2hit again just when aiming at the legs (which is awful anyway).

And Leshma, just because you get some kills of unaware players, doesnt mean the class is overpowered. It's the same with crossbows on the ground, you can pick them up and do headshots.. oh just 1 wpf? LETS nerf crossbows! ;)