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Anyone knows..
« on: May 28, 2012, 03:28:36 pm »
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 61 hp
Level: 31
Strength: 18

Agility: 18

Attributes to skills: 0

Skills to attributes: 0

Ironflesh: 4

Power Strike: 6

Shield: 5

Athletics: 6

Power Draw: 5

Weapon Master: 6

WPF:Weapon proficiencies (17)

One Handed: 118  max

Archery: 118  max


Would this be a useable build? I know I build it for 31 but hey, it's my first self-made build. I wanted to make a 1h/shield/archer... Is 118 archery too low?

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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 03:33:44 pm »
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Depends on your archery skill.
 
At my Archer alt 150 wasn't enough to use a Hornbow or Rus Bow for me.

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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 03:34:11 pm »
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It will be a somewhat decent-ish 1h/shield character with very poor ranged capabilities. Don't expect to be accurate or fast. Probably won't hit too hard either. Archery is pretty poor in hybrid chars.

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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 03:40:34 pm »
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I see, well I wasn't planning on making a killing machine but more of a fun built, with which I can kill some people and have fun :)
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 04:19:03 pm »
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I see, well I wasn't planning on making a killing machine but more of a fun built, with which I can kill some people and have fun :)
Even 150 wpf in archery does not bring enough fun in my opinion. If you want to try hybrids and have fun, don't mix archery with something else. Just saying, but everything else would be much much more fun.
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2012, 04:42:05 pm »
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I like my archer-melee hybrid, but I must suggest that you get 15str and 21agi, and 7WM and 7ATH you could use your build properly at 30 by adding the IF last, I'd also suggest only having 100 or 90 melee wpf for more archery wpf.
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2012, 04:42:42 pm »
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kills = fun. Especially with Archery as Archer you need atleast 150-160 wpf imo with 6 PD.

A nice Idea would be twist it with xbow 118 wpf is enough for mid-short range.

Then you can even max out IF- and Shield skill

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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 04:58:15 pm »
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Hmm, time to mess around with the build generator :) thanks for the feedback guys.
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2012, 05:06:14 pm »
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Allright, so I ditched IF for more shield so my shield is more durable, changed the wpf aswell, more in archery, what do you think?


 50 hp
Level: 30
Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 6
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 5
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 87  max
Archery: 150  max

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i'll be there at around
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2012, 05:34:47 pm »
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hybrid builds can be very fun, I have done about over 10 gens now as 1h/thrower, but archery is the least efficient way to go, it requires the most specialization to be effective at range.

Crossbow and throwing are both way more efficient for melee chars. They are different styles, throwing IMO meshes a lot better with a melee mentality, gives you very nice tactical short range options to deal with a number of situations (backpeddle heroes, kiters, horses). If you like to sit back and play range sometimes and snipe at people at short/medium range, crossbow is much more efficient to take than archery.

Your archery build is just gonna tickle in melee with 4 power strike.

For a crossbow hybrid build, you could still do a medium-heavy melee build. 24/12, maybe even 27-12, about 105 wpf in melee and xbow, maybe go up to 15 AGI and put the extra WPF into xbow but a bit faster reload and smaller reticule, depends how much you wanna snipe and fight archers at medium range.
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2012, 09:09:17 pm »
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My last 2 generations with my archer alt have been with split up wpf between archery and something else. It really sucks.
If you don't focus on archery wpf it's better to use a crossbow.

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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 10:49:39 pm »
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My last 2 generations with my archer alt have been with split up wpf between archery and something else. It really sucks.
If you don't focus on archery wpf it's better to use a crossbow.

Mhm i see i see, i've heard alot of negativity on archer hybrids so i'll probably just skip the idea (or maybe in the future) and i've already got an xbow/1h!

Thanks for everyones replies, its clear now that archer hybrids aren't that good. :D
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2012, 11:24:43 pm »
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Mhm i see i see, i've heard alot of negativity on archer hybrids so i'll probably just skip the idea (or maybe in the future) and i've already got an xbow/1h!

Thanks for everyones replies, its clear now that archer hybrids aren't that good. :D
Well in my opinion, the foot archer/shielder is not very good; but jackie has a good hybrid horse archer build that I can name it as cataphract build. I also see he does pretty well with it. Check his build at the new horse archery guide, you may not regret it.

The reason why it can be more useful is, that it is a one handed cavalry/horse archer hybrid. So he can play as a one handed cavalry, and can use his bow when needed as a sidearm; mostly against enemy cav or twohanders/polearmers I believe. So it is not pathetic as foot hybrid, because it has great mobility that it uses a horse. A cataphract horse to be honest.
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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 01:34:15 am »
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Allright, so I ditched IF for more shield so my shield is more durable, changed the wpf aswell, more in archery, what do you think?


 50 hp
Level: 30
Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 6
Athletics: 7
Power Draw: 5
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 87  max
Archery: 150  max
That's a pretty good build.

If you want a none-shield archer, try 18/18, 100 melee wpf, rest archery and 5 IF and 6 PD/PS/Athl/WM.

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Re: Anyone knows..
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 12:58:17 pm »
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That's a pretty good build.

If you want a none-shield archer, try 18/18, 100 melee wpf, rest archery and 5 IF and 6 PD/PS/Athl/WM.

Like this:
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Well, I was specifically aiming for a shield/archer because they seem rare and according to alot of other people lower then 150 archery wouldn't be worth it?

Thabks thou :D
I loot corpses of their golden teeth.
But he'll be around somewhere between Heaven and The Devil, because neither of them will take him in, and he'll be farting loudly and singing a filthy song.

i'll be there at around
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