SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED

[Paul]

Telling 2handers to get a shield is racism. On the other hand insulting archers and suggesting to them to go die in a fire is not.

[Momo]

Telling 2handers to get a shield is racism. On the other hand insulting archers and suggesting to them to go die in a fire is not.

I am planning to go 2h/throwing hybrid next gen so if an archer tries to troll me I can put an axe in his/her face.

[Ad1no]

Telling 2handers to get a shield is racism. On the other hand insulting archers and suggesting to them to go die in a fire is not.

obviously this dev is a pimp

[Leshma]

Shield is useful only if you're chasing single archer under one condition, that you have 2 more ath than him. Otherwise not so useful.

Archers, xbowmen and throwers are usually shooting from different sides at me so having a shield on my back while fighting someone won't help me there.

And contrary to popular belief, having friendly archers behind me won't help me because most archers won't shoot at other archers unless they are threatened by them.

If archers focused enemy archers and cav fought enemy cav, being infantry on big servers would be a lot relaxed. However that's not the case.

[Kafein]

Shield is useful only if you're chasing single archer under one condition, that you have 2 more ath than him. Otherwise not so useful.

Leshma, who as far as I know is not very experienced with shields, has aknowledged this basic fact most archers posting on the forums never care to admit for some reason.

Telling 2handers to get a shield is racism. On the other hand insulting archers and suggesting to them to go die in a fire is not.

An archer dying in a fire is still an archer. It's not racism. I'd even say an archer dying in a fire becomes the absolute form of an archer, the final transformation to become the ultimate archer. It is the climax of his life, which was devoted to that moment.

[OpenPalm]

Leshma, who as far as I know is not very experienced with shields, has aknowledged this basic fact most archers posting on the forums never care to admit for some reason.

Sure, if you're fighting an archer on an infinite field that has no other allies/enemies or obstacles.  Battles do not take place in a vacuum, and sometimes, chasing away an archer is just as valuable as killing him.

[Leshma]

Leshma, who as far as I know is not very experienced with shields, has aknowledged this basic fact most archers posting on the forums never care to admit for some reason.

I'm a bad shielder, however I do have 1 shield skill which isn't much but in combination with Old Heater Shield and some manual shield positioning it's enough to block most arrows that are fired straight at me. Although crazy STR archers do trash my shield in 3 or 4 arrows.

I do have some experience using a shield against archers. Against better archers (weasels) it's not useful because this is what usually happens:

1) they run and I chase them, i'm slower because of the shield but i'm still fast enough
2) after some time i catch them but they do 180 spin (which should be fixed) run straight into me, disrupting my attack
3) keep running in other direction

I don't have fast enough reflexes to release my swing before they run into me and I don't have a crystal ball to tell me when they are about to turn around.

Cocky archers do something else:
1) they run
2) let you catch them
3) shoot you when you're changing from shield to weapon

For high agi chars it's better choice to chase them without a shield than with it.

[Adamar]

Leshma, who as far as I know is not very experienced with shields, has aknowledged this basic fact most archers posting on the forums never care to admit for some reason.

Why not? It's a prety simple tactic for two coordinated archers to bring down a shielder, anything wrong with it?

[Cris]

Who remebers the day when even a horsearcher (damage penalty) could get rid of your good shield in 2 to 3 shots? And archers could headshoot you across the map if the player knew how to aim?
Or if they were really good shoot your feet undershields if you didnt stack high shieldskill?
And shoot at a native speed?

Sniper Crossobows were carried by everyone and thorwing lances were 1 shot kill to even heavy horses

Ah those were the days :-P I still cannot understand why people want ranged nerfed, its been nerf. A lot. More than any other thing in any other game ive ever played.

[Beauchamp]

Why doesn't anyone ever buy a shield? In the old CRPG 70% of twohanders had a shield.

Because they don't need it against current archers.

[Havoco]

learn to english? neva!

Learn 2 evade

[Swaggart]

Telling 2h/polearmers to get a shield would make sense only if archers were forced to spend points to block melee.

[XyNox]

Telling 2h/polearmers to get a shield would make sense only if archers were forced to spend points to block melee.

Being forced to spend half of your skillpoints just to be able to hit anything at all isnt enough ?

[Bobthehero]

Able to hit anything without most people beign able to fight back?

Yes.


If you want to force melee to change their build, change your too.

[Taggerung]

Telling 2handers to get a shield is racism. On the other hand insulting archers and suggesting to them to go die in a fire is not.

And this is why this mod is dying. Fuck C-RPG and it's Devs.