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Should we nerf ranged?

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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #300 on: June 01, 2012, 12:52:38 am »
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We just want armor rating to actually mean something against arrows. Right now, it almost doesn't matter what your armor rating is, always receiving high amount of damage from archers. And I'm just talking about archers, xbows are balanced imo cause they are supposed to do more damage.

I have 24 str, 7 IF and 54 body armor, and I get 3 shotted (in body) by archers, while I can take much more hits from melee, and archers are not even in combat range with me and shoot from distance and at a high rate and if I manage to get close, they use their speed to get away and kill me anyway. You see the overkill power of archers?

Yes it's fake, fail, OP and rediculous.

Nerf them (rl homosexuals) archers.
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #301 on: June 01, 2012, 01:02:27 am »
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Yes, how dare Archers even think about shooting you. And why do they attack you from a far distance? How dare they!

Did you even get the point here? That archers do more damage than melee and that from an unreachable distance. Why answer with such ignorance? oh wait.. I know, you're an archer!
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #302 on: June 01, 2012, 01:15:59 am »
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I am not anymore. I go Archer 1 gen, melee 1 gen, Archer 1 gen, melee 1 gen and so on. 13th gen with my main char now. ;)

No the point is, you're wrong saying an Archer is stronger. The game needs to balance all 3 classes which means that all 3 classes should do similar dmg even if the Archer can attack from distance. The cav has a horse and can use its speed therefore. The infantry class has high dmg in melee, armor and melee dmg. An Archer has to sacrifice points of his main class to get some points for melee dmg.

But you probably do not notice that if you're so ignorant and just want your own class to be good.

Regarding the thing that you can take more melee hits than range hits usually is a different thing; it totally depends on you, your armor, your stats, your enemy, his weapon and his stats. If you have around 50 body armor an archer with a loomed rus/long bow and bodkin arrows does of course deal more damage than an infantry with a bad slash and a cut weapon (ie probably not turning into his hit, glancing, hit to the body not head and more). You cannot say an archer is better therefore.
Currently it is also the case that most archer's bodyshots are pretty useless unless you have a good build with high PD and a loomed bow/arrows.
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #303 on: June 01, 2012, 04:42:56 am »
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First of all my STF atm is a weaboo derp katana char. However unlike you, i've actually played every class that there is to play and although archers are annoying (especially HA) it's not the bow itself but more that they tend to run away and group up on you or as HA, they tend to bump and shoot you in turns.

The bow itself isn't that OP. But it's hard for dedicated melee extremists to realize it because hell.. There are even players who have played for 2 years or so and still are going melee and complain about ranged.


Play every class and stop being so narrow minded.

Hey listen count newb you are just another fail troll.. I've played every class there is many times over in this game as i'm sure any old player has.. So go fall on your arrow fail ranger.

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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #304 on: June 01, 2012, 07:01:57 am »
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only if she sat on his face with all dat booty...and suffocated him!

It's an acceptable attack!  Still counts!
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #305 on: June 01, 2012, 07:05:22 am »
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If they have to nerf something it should be cav.. or atleast make 50 % of the maps inf maps.
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #306 on: June 01, 2012, 07:47:03 am »
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every1 who post here about op ranged and nerfs shoud be banned for a week and forced to play native all this week.
shooting at people from a reachable place as last man standing is not delaying. Even if you're on the other side of the map.

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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #307 on: June 01, 2012, 10:12:38 am »
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every1 who post here about op ranged and nerfs shoud be banned for a week and forced to play native all this week.

Anyone who is always last alive against 20 enemy cos he's ranged and hiding should be banned for 1 week.
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #308 on: June 01, 2012, 10:51:10 am »
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has anybody complaining about archery actually ever played as an archer?

last time when kafein was bitchind he admitted he has 0.4:1 k/d ratio with his 30 lvl one.
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #309 on: June 01, 2012, 10:55:29 am »
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For me, the main annoyance isn't about getting killed by archers - it's getting shot down to low health before getting into contact with enemy melee, which happens quite often on a battle server, despite having a shield (horse archers flanking and being pin point accurate etc.).

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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #310 on: June 01, 2012, 11:33:34 am »
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has anybody complaining about archery actually ever played as an archer?

last time when kafein was bitchind he admitted he has 0.4:1 k/d ratio with his 30 lvl one.

It's worth noting I spend more time respeccing that guy than playing with him. Also, that k/d is with an archer hybrid, and really I wish those were better. Anyway it doesn't really matter since I only played like 5 maps.

Stop doing that or you will convince me to respec to peasant archer and play it, just to prove I can (probably) do a little better with a minmax kiter build.

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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #311 on: June 01, 2012, 12:06:33 pm »
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For me, the main annoyance isn't about getting killed by archers - it's getting shot down to low health before getting into contact with enemy melee, which happens quite often on a battle server, despite having a shield (horse archers flanking and being pin point accurate etc.).

Try playing as HA, the accuracy is pretty far from "pin point accurate".   :lol:
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #312 on: June 01, 2012, 12:29:11 pm »
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most annoying thing to me is archers that hold their attack and still hit you most of the time. It happened more than once that I was going after an archer and trying to move around alot but the archer simply held his attack ( yes i know holding it decreases accuracy ) and he still hit me 2 times out of 3 even if i was 20 feet away or more.

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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #313 on: June 01, 2012, 12:30:16 pm »
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So yeah, basicly nobody complaining here ever tried to play an archer or horse archer. Most of the people suffer from selective memory and come out with bs like pinpoint accuracy for HA, arrows taking 1/2 hp, archer only injuring and not killing (OMG HOW THEY DARE) etc. Go play STF character at least and then complain morons :)
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Re: SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED
« Reply #314 on: June 01, 2012, 12:46:20 pm »
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Indeed, nothing wrong with losing a considerable amount of health early in the round with no means to avoid it, on a regular basis (due to a large amount of archers and throwers, especially when notorious clans are around).

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