cRPG Nations Cup

[Tennenoth]

And then I will put this in just to annoy Curtis:

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Because:

Britain itself is not a nation, it has nations within it, but personally, along with quite a few, I like to think of myself as British and not English.
Afterall, we are the United Kingdom.

[Son Of Odin]

Yeah I don't know what to call you, because Curtis gets almost offended if someone calls him British. "I'M NOT BRITISH, I'M ENGLISH CUNT! Why do people think I'm British?!" .

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Well soon we all will be just Europeans and old nations are called "states"... Just mark my words . There will be one big country called Europe. It has State of Britain, State of Finland, State of Sweden etc... I must say I'm really horrified even from the pure thought of that. European Union is however heading that way... I'm not saying this in some weird nationalistic crazy person sense... I think that it will bring a lot of problems and numb up cultures... Also good things in economical ways, maybe.

[Kafein]

I don't get people that don't get multiple cultures can coexist in the same country. It already happens everywhere and in fact I don't see why there should be a link between culture and country.

I answered your off-topic political bullshit spoiler with an actual post. Ho well...

[Jarlek]

Yeah I don't know what to call you, because Curtis gets almost offended if someone calls him British. "I'M NOT BRITISH, I'M ENGLISH CUNT! Why do people think I'm British?!" .

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Well soon we all will be just Europeans and old nations are called "states"... Just mark my words . There will be one big country called Europe. It has State of Britain, State of Finland, State of Sweden etc... I must say I'm really horrified even from the pure thought of that. European Union is however heading that way... I'm not saying this in some weird nationalistic crazy person sense... I think that it will bring a lot of problems and numb up cultures... Also good things in economical ways, maybe.

Guess Norway will be Canada then.

[Tennenoth]

Yeah I don't know what to call you, because Curtis gets almost offended if someone calls him British. "I'M NOT BRITISH, I'M ENGLISH CUNT! Why do people think I'm British?!" .

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Well soon we all will be just Europeans and old nations are called "states"... Just mark my words . There will be one big country called Europe. It has State of Britain, State of Finland, State of Sweden etc... I must say I'm really horrified even from the pure thought of that. European Union is however heading that way... I'm not saying this in some weird nationalistic crazy person sense... I think that it will bring a lot of problems and numb up cultures... Also good things in economical ways, maybe.

Regardless of what he says, he is British, English = British whether or not you believe English > Britain. It's just the mindset you're brought up with to an extent. I mean, without throwing too off topic crap here, he's probably Labour, whereas I'm Conservative.

I like the idea of the European Union, but I don't think that it will ever become like you say. Britain in particular, we're already pushed out a reasonable amount because we refused to transfer to the Euro (which was a lucky escape) and therefore, it's split into the "Euro Zone" and "Europe", we're part of "Europe" but we're not in the zone so to speak.
The individual jurisdiction across the different countries within Europe break down significantly as a global government as they are going to make decisions and put forward ideas that are going to further their own country, no one thinks of other countries when they say they want something there. Unlike the US, who have been the same country since day one (want of a better phrase), all their interests are the same (more or less) in Europe, it wouldn't be.

In short, I don't think it would work, but I'm not a politician and only have a passing interest in government, enough to better myself.

[Son Of Odin]

Well I don't want to turn this thread into political discussion. I like some things about the EU. However I don't approve everything that the European Union is doing and has done but as I said this thread is about nice things, not dirty politics!

So back to subject. Is the team going to be called as United Kingdoms- team or are the UNITED Kingdoms going to be the Separated Kingdoms in this nations cup? Just so I could start making the flag banner pack ^^.

[Everkistus]

Finnish people go check our subforum

[Oberyn]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, UK doesn't belong in the EU. By their own admission their primary role in European history has been to keep the continent fragmented with a "balance" of power. Their obstructionist bullshit within the EU is just the legacy of those policies.
I'd say they have as much of a vested interest in the EU as any other Euro country, and as far as culture and geography it is an integral part of Europe and as such they belong in the EU, but they don't see it that way. Brits have mostly always held themselves as appart from continentals. It's not hard to find pop culture echos of it everywhere in their politics, especially when it comes to the subject of the EU.

[Kafein]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, UK doesn't belong in the EU. By their own admission their primary role in European history has been to keep the continent fragmented with a "balance" of power. Their obstructionist bullshit within the EU is just the legacy of those policies.
I'd say they have as much of a vested interest in the EU as any other Euro country, and as far as culture and geography it is an integral part of Europe and as such they belong in the EU, but they don't see it that way. Brits have mostly always held themselves as appart from continentals. It's not hard to find pop culture echos of it everywhere in their politics, especially when it comes to the subject of the EU.

All the insular people tend to be like that to the closest continent, though.

But what the hell Oberyn this is not a politics thread. Will you join team France ?

[Tennenoth]

I don't think Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales or England seperately would be able to pick up a big enough team to fight, so I would guess, particularly with the addition of the Union flag, we'll be running as Britain, not our individual countries.

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Also, Oberyn, I think that's only natural, we're not obstructional because we don't use the Euro, Europe is more or less free trade between those countries and being out of the Euro, as I said before, means that we're in the lower half of Europe, although we care what happens to Greece for example, it'll be bad for us, it won't nearly be as bad for us as you for example.
Also, historically, us Brits and French as nationalities have never gotten along and have always had views like that. (Not the individuals mind you, I don't have a problem with any person, just the stereotypes and friendly banter between said countries.)
I think our government knows we belong in the EU, but they still feel that they could be pushed out of it easily and therefore will stop at nothing to, like any other country as I stated before, make sure that the policies go their way. If you watch our media, there are constantly things that say that the Prime Minister must stop something from happening in order to keep our stake in the EU etc etc.

But in this day and age, particularly in a multinational community such as this one, although nationality plays a large role in who we are, it's good to have some identity of where you come from of course, people tend to look past where you come from (in my own experience, I understand there are some countries that have difficulty with this, but hopefully for your countries, that might pass in time.) At the end of the day, if you find a good group of people to play with, likeminded or otherwise, nationality gives a good point for banter. It's what the internet achieves best if you fall into the right place.

Anyways, as we're derailing the thread, I think this is my last jump at "happy EU, happy world".

[Bjarky]

Danskere tjek venligst:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,32343.0.html
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http://nditions.de/forum/index.php?topic=1772.0
 

[Sable Keech]

I cant believe the daft shite Curtis says has sparked political debate.

[Tomas]

I don't think there are enough Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish players to form individual teams and so I expect we will play as the UK.

The real questions are whether there are any Irish players out there, whether will they be included with the UK and if so what will our name/banner be then?

[Tennenoth]

I don't think there are enough Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish players to form individual teams and so I expect we will play as the UK.

The real questions are whether there are any Irish players out there, whether will they be included with the UK and if so what will our name/banner be then?

I doubt they have enough (I can only think of Alpha & Blueberry (who isn't the most Irish Irishman...  )) but I am fully willing to be completely surprised by the sudden arrival of a full team of Irish!

[Spartacus]

england and so on should be one team since it is one nation:
Great Britain
Or should germany come with people out of all states to form 16 teams?? no
I already think it is bs that they are seperated in Soccer but this is not the right topic for that:D