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Should master of the field appear always?

Yes
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No
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I don't care/random joke option
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 07:30:20 pm »
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I don't think most people will act this way. First of all, keep in mind that the average cRPG server crowd is a bunch of lemmings, they don't even think about what would be the best strategy to win the round, they just want frags.

And even if you think of taking the flag, there will be a decisive fight in any case, so where is the difference between fighting, THEN the winner taking the flag, or waiting until the flag pops up, THEN fighting around the flag and the winner taking it? In any case there will be a fight needed, and most people will prefer to have the fight sooner than later.

That's at least how I imagine it to work...  :?
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2012, 07:55:30 pm »
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fucking terrible idea.
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2012, 09:33:15 pm »
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Either a) make your irony more obvious by using smileys or b) please elaborate why you think it's a terrible idea.
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2012, 09:35:34 pm »
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The problem is not the game, it's players who are told to keep a distance for flags to appear but not listen who are to blame.

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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2012, 09:47:40 pm »
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Either a) make your irony more obvious by using smileys or b) please elaborate why you think it's a terrible idea.
It's not irony, it's a terrible idea. You are trying to treat a symptom not a cause.
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2012, 10:00:15 pm »
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fucking terrible idea.
this.

I never understand the complaints about people being last and doing (sometimes) awesome stuff. Even if there are some boring ending how it is now, battle will get much more boring with flags forced and will destroy many epic situations.

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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2012, 10:19:40 pm »
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Yes, more pros than cons.

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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2012, 10:29:12 pm »
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Avarage round on battle servers last for about 3 minutes, well it depends on a map mostly, round time limit is set to 7 minutes, making it spawn always after 5 minutes (2:00 till the round end for example) will to lead to waiting for flags spawn in almost every round. Now tell me where is the point in simply charging if you know that flag is going to spawn at certain time no matter what you do? Team that has lost a round or two might refuse to attack simply becouse doing some pew pew job for 4 minutes get give them a higher chance to win at flags, while the other team can think "Hey, we steamrolled the round before, let's milk some xp!". How it will look? Shield walls and pew pew madness for more then half a round, 1 minute to get to the flag and what's left for some fighting.... sounds boring for me. Of course it doesn't have to look like this but for me it is very probably scenario.
No, that is not how people play the game. People play the game to have fun, they willl all rush to the enemy to fight.
For every player that sits back is one less player rushing, and getting outnumbered, the team that fragments will lose.
Everybody will push like always.
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2012, 10:35:33 pm »
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95% of the flags spawn in the open so it won't be a good idea in waiting near them.

Plus I thought the flags spawned randomly on some set areas for each map, no?

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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2012, 10:36:25 pm »
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1 min before the end is enough
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2012, 11:18:29 pm »
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I thought about it for a bit, and a full team will need to properly camp before the flags come to really utilize that feature. That will happen rarely if there are more than 60 people on the server.

This will indirectly buff defense-oriented classes like shielder, though.


We've also never really experienced situations where there are many people left on each team and the flag appears... It could end up being pretty exciting!

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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2012, 11:21:49 pm »
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I am amazed! Kudos, to you sir. I always thought that HAs literally LIVED for those ends of a round where they are followed by a dozen infantrymen without a single ranged weapon, picking off one after another, to show off their mad skills.

Honestly, I expected HAs, HXs and ATH-archers to be against that suggestion...  :?

People bunched up together around a very tight space? HA/HXs day dream about such situations. I've seen the flag come up and even with 4-5 guys around it you can't miss. Add to the chaos that would ensue with melee going on around it (which would be pretty cool) and cav and HA/HX would tear right through  :P Particularly if the flag was in an open area and inf had to cross that area to get to it.
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2012, 11:30:30 pm »
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Great idea (though probably not new), would give some new gameplay aspect to battle, 'cause now it's rather stupid tdm with no respawn.
But that flag has to be in some "balanced" place on map, not some easy place to barricade and not on an open terrain... now i think it should be always random, for more fun.

Maybe make that "king of the hill" mode on eu4, just to check out if it works?
« Last Edit: May 14, 2012, 12:31:06 am by HUtH »
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2012, 11:42:04 pm »
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Excellent post Joker :)
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Re: Make master of the field ALWAYS appear
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2012, 01:02:45 am »
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crpg has needed this for years...