Agi needs to be reset

[Thucydides]

PS affects swing speed? first time i've ever heard of it

[EponiCo]

Since your damage is higher you can hit earlier in the animation I guess is what he means.

[Cyclopsided]

No. Strength does not increase swing speed. It increases damage independently of power strike in addition though.
I'm going to assume that he is referencing the fact you can be a 10 PS tank with 132 WPF on a 30/9 build. You are barely slower at all with swing speed than a balanced or agi build.

[Bobthehero]

127 prof*

[Tennenoth]

And archers (pew pew --> run away from enemy --> pew pew --> run away...)

You'll never catch me with your silly horses! 

I don't know, I think that agility/athletics is fine to be honest with you, it's not like I really notice the fact that people are really slow, I mean there are occasions when I can happily outrun everyone with my 7 athletics and light armour but I like that, it also means I can't just press w and get away from anything, I have to actually withdraw tactically rather than just "Screw this, i'm outta here" and disappearing leaving a cloud of dust behind! I think it's actually balanced quite well in that respect 

[Spawny]

No. Strength does not increase swing speed. It increases damage independently of power strike in addition though.
I'm going to assume that he is referencing the fact you can be a 10 PS tank with 132 WPF on a 30/9 build. You are barely slower at all with swing speed than a balanced or agi build.

15/21 build with 7 WM: 164 prof. Leaves you with 5 PS.
So you get half the PS for a measly 35-40 wpf?
Not worth it imo, but since I'm a rather poor blocker I need high athletics to benefit from my footwork.

Strengthbuilds have all the advantages atm. 1 hit kill most people, can't be outspammed, average speed compared to everybody else (mostly other strengthbuilds).

[Punisher]

Agi just needs to be given the passive attack speed bonus back and it will be fine. A guy with 18+ agility should be able to outspam a 3 agility tincan.

Currently strenght offers passive damage bonus and +1hp for each str point. Agi only offers a slight movement speed bonus (5 extra agi has the effect of 1 extra athletics if I remember correctly).

[Christo]

Agi just needs to be given the passive attack speed bonus back and it will be fine.

This.

All the uber-strength Bar Mace spammers and the like is getting a bit boring.

[Konrax]

WPF scaling should be changed too.

You shouldn't be able to get to 50 wpf for 1 pt each.

I think the +1 point every 25 before was fine since now no one has carry over WPF from retirements. This will also make pure classes a lot more viable again, and not nerf hybrids at the same time.

+1 also for passive swing speed bonus for agility like before also.

The 3 agility 2h tin cans need to end already.

[Bobthehero]

No they dont, you have to make agi more interesting...

[Konrax]

EDIT: The FOTM 2h 3 agility tin cans who think they have "skills" need to end.

There wouldn't be so damn many of them if they were actually balanced AND required skill to play since according to the forums here everyone has to L2P.

Like most of the BRD clan.

[Bobthehero]

I use a 1h and I have 9 agi, problem?

[Otaku_HyeZa]

I have 5 athletic but i am fast in my mail armor.But in the athletic need more balancing.

[Cyclopsided]

EDIT: The FOTM 2h 3 agility tin cans who think they have "skills" need to end.

There wouldn't be so damn many of them if they were actually balanced AND required skill to play since according to the forums here everyone has to L2P.

Like most of the BRD clan.

Not sure if you just called BRD skill-less "Flavor of the Month" tin cans...
I'm not even going to comment on that.

However, wpf scaling just needs to be reverted so agility is useful again. It will restore the balance between strength and agility builds.

[Konrax]

Get a little frustrated with Wallace and Linden overhand barmace spam =/