ArcheAge

[Vibe]

So, from what I saw,  ArcheAge is a bit similar to WoW or Guild Wars kind of games, but with open PvP and Sandbox elements, right?

Yes. It's basically a themepark game with a few sandbox features that make it special. Called a "sandpark".

[Vibe]

[Christo]

wow that ship battle video... Amazing.

[SeQuel]

So would you say its gonna be worth the monthly sub once it comes out Vibe? I heard the game is pretty infested with bots already.

[Christo]

monthly sub

what

[Vibe]

So would you say its gonna be worth the monthly sub once it comes out Vibe? I heard the game is pretty infested with bots already.

It has bots just like any other popular MMO on the market. If it's worth the sub, well that's up to you to decide. You can play the game quite well without the sub, but if you want to go into serious crafting, farming and/or land owning, you kind of need to get the sub. Otherwise you could as well play for free. It's gonna be slightly harder than being a paying user, but doable.

I do however want to say again that I don't think the founder packs that they offer via Steam as well are worth it. If you do some calculations and knowing the worth of items, you'll notice that you're basically paying 15€+ for 3 or 4 day headstart:
Silver 45€ = 13€ (cash shop) + 14€ (1 month sub) = 45€-27€ = 18€ money lost
Gold 90€ = 38€ (cash shop) + 28€ (2 month sub) = 90€-66€ = 23€ money lost
Archeum 135€ = 57€ (cash shop) + 42€ (3 month sub)= 135€-99€ = 36€ money lost

[SeQuel]

what

The game is F2P with a sub option.

[Christo]

The game is F2P with a sub option.

I completely forgot about that.

Maybe because I'd probably only play PvP and fight other people and what not. Funny to say but the pure sandbox elements are not first priority to me.

[Vibe]

I completely forgot about that.

Maybe because I'd probably only play PvP and fight other people and what not. Funny to say but the pure sandbox elements are not first priority to me.

If sandbox elements are not the first priority, then I guess you could as well just play without sub. Heck, they even made it like EVE online, you can buy the monthly sub (called Patron status) via ingame currency, if you earn enough that is.
You shouldn't have any problem building a boat as a free user and then you can just pirate people and steal their trade packs. If you want to do farming without owning land, you can ask someone you know that owns land to let you farm on it. The only problem here is that you'll have less labour point regeneration compared to paying users (labour points are used in crafting, gathering, farming etc). How much less is not set in stone yet.
But you won't be able to be a serious crafter/farmer that's for sure. It takes too many labour points. Then again crafting is very brutal and RNG based and costs a ton of mats, big guilds usually just pick 2 crafters per profession and have the other members pool the resources into them, it's that brutal

[Christo]

Not sure how it is but if crafting doesn't give you an edge against others in combat, I'd be fine with it honestly.

[Vovka]

dont waste ur time on dat shit 
its a garden simulator, 1 week after russian beta start here already was radar for 10$ per mounth so u can see all guys in stealth,  behind buildings, etc. hax like perma death sphere killing by impact. Under grounds bot teleports etc. I used radar for like 2 mounth and never been banned. (searched a treasures(5-100g cost each like 300g per day) on the northern continent, sunken treasure, rare resources) ....

[Vovka]

Not sure how it is but if crafting doesn't give you an edge against others in combat, I'd be fine with it honestly.

it does... purple set and u can kill like 5 guys without it

[Christo]

it does... purple set and u can kill like 5 guys without it

Ugh.

[Vovka]

Ugh.

also game isping based especially for archers and healers ((

[Vovka]

but to be honest was fun sit in stealth with radar and see how guy in stealth with radar as well move right to my derection XD