The fuck is wrong with you!?

[OpenPalm]

The whole point of a weapons rack is that it allows you to change your outfit for free.  You need 5 con mats to build it, so you need 2 people, one with a c-site and 1 con mat, and one with 4 con mats.  It takes time and good positioning to get one up in a place where enemies won't just kill it immediately.  Once it's built, you can build everything else you need for engineering, or have infinite throwing weapons.  If you have any looms, you can spawn those and drop them for allies.  If I recall correctly, they die pretty quick to anything, 2-3 hits at the most.  Anyone who blocked any kind of doorway with a weapons rack is wasting time, as a c-site has more hp, so you spent 5 con mats and a c-site on a weaker wall.  Also, they are very low to the ground and easy to jump over, completely negating any kind of use as a wall.

I think whoever removed weapons racks has no idea what they do...

[Meow]

According to Frank The Tank you removed weapon racks in the patch, what the fuck went through your heads? Engineering was one of the funner parts of cRPG, and once it's finally recognized as a somewhat playstyle you fuckers decide to kill it!?

This is so fucking retarded I can't even find the words to describe it...
...fuck you devs.

And you think because you go into nerd rage we will patch it back in?
Or are you just mad and wanna vent a bit?

Obviously the people who exploited it like crazy forced the removal and until there is a good solution the stuff won't be back.

[OpenPalm]

How were weapons racks exploited? 

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

And you think because you go into nerd rage we will patch it back in?
Or are you just mad and wanna vent a bit?

Obviously the people who exploited it like crazy forced the removal and until there is a good solution the stuff won't be back.

50/50
How were they exploited? if you're talking about blocking doors 'n' shit then just add to rules that CS shit spawned by weapon rack isn't allowed to block shit... (which is already in the rules if I recall)
They aren't more exploitable than coursers with no ranged players.

[Brrrak]

Is it at all possible to make c-sites and weapons racks something you can pass through?

[Rainbow]

I knew that the big 'ol nerf was coming.  As soon as it starts to catch on and too many people begin exploiting it needs to be taken out.  I believe I made a post about this a while ago when it was just starting to get popular.  I said something along the lines of it starting out legit and slowly the transition to exploit will begin to emerge.  I was correct.  Remove siege from game forever and ever and ever!  If you are looking for the guilty party you need but look in the mirror.

[BlindGuy]

It MIGHT be coinidence but Yurnero_the_Nailsgifta became Yurnero_the_Magicholescrafta.

The 2nd is a boring longbowman, dime a dozen.

The 1st was...well, awesome! He would make himself a weapon rack in any defensible spot near the flag, reinforce it with a few CS to stop ppl from getting to him while he rearmed, and then would throw endless Throwing Lances. Ive been on this guy's team, and against him, and both ways it was fun, it was different, and wasnt gamebreaking, just game enhancing.

BUT unfortunatly, just like everything from 13 shieldskill steelbucklers to ppl blocking doorways with endless CS spam, if there IS a way to abuse the mechanics, ppl WILL abuse the mechanics, for the same reason you see 100,000 kuyaks with GS: Fun, playing, skill, amusement, nothing is as important as GRINDING OUT THE x5 REGUARDLESS OF WHO I HURT. This problem is kinda exhasperated by things such as the multiplier system, there being an obvious BEST price/effectiveness set of items, and the like.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

It MIGHT be coinidence but Yurnero_the_Nailsgifta became Yurnero_the_Magicholescrafta.

The 2nd is a boring longbowman, dime a dozen.

The 1st was...well, awesome! He would make himself a weapon rack in any defensible spot near the flag, reinforce it with a few CS to stop ppl from getting to him while he rearmed, and then would throw endless Throwing Lances. Ive been on this guy's team, and against him, and both ways it was fun, it was different, and wasnt gamebreaking, just game enhancing.

BUT unfortunatly, just like everything from 13 shieldskill steelbucklers to ppl blocking doorways with endless CS spam, if there IS a way to abuse the mechanics, ppl WILL abuse the mechanics, for the same reason you see 100,000 kuyaks with GS: Fun, playing, skill, amusement, nothing is as important as GRINDING OUT THE x5 REGUARDLESS OF WHO I HURT. This problem is kinda exhasperated by things such as the multiplier system, there being an obvious BEST price/effectiveness set of items, and the like.

Played with him once, we set up a few weapon racks at strategic spots, then used them to throw lances at people, haven't seen him as a longbowman, this shit is sad. 

[BlindGuy]

Maybe its an alt...I dunno, just know I havent seen him in a while, and there cant be THAT many Yurnero_the_(crazyname)'s out there, can there?

[Tomas_of_Miles]

Screw it, I'm still going to be a shielding thrower cav next gen.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Screw it, I'm still going to be a shielding thrower cav next gen.

Thrower cav ftw!

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Weapon racks would be fine if there was a limit (and cost!) to it's use. Right now there isn't.

Let's turn this whine thread into something more productive. Instead of raging, try asking the devs nicely to make putting back updated weapon rack mechanics back into cRPG. Ask them to make it a priority and get more people to concur on that.

I like weapon racks and i want em back.

So the 2.6k I pay to build them isn't a cost? Why not just limit them to 4 spawns like siege shields?

If people breaking the rules and jamming up entrances constantly are the problem why not ENFORCE THE RULES instead of just shutting me out of the game?

This decision wasn't thought through, the better option was to leave it as it was and enforce a code of conduct until there was a real fix for the forward spawns and a deployment limit for the weapons racks (which I'm pretty sure there is because I've only ever been able to build 4, why not have 3 csites in action at once as the max that way you have to complete what your building first).

I was asked yesterday, how is that your "class" when I said engineering is my class and it has now finally been removed. I'll explain.

I play on NA with 280 ping, the AUS community is dead there is no better server. I play to support my friends and clan mates in strat, after going through every class (again already did this on the AUS server) on NA I found one class that I could play, engineer. The ping doesn't matter at all if I'm running about sorting out ammo and healing tents for the black barred rubbed. With the ping I can half do throwing but it's most impossible if they don't stand still or run in a dead straight line. I see everything WAY after its happened so its just a massive shit.

What I'm saying is this, you've removed the last thing I could do from the game. What do I do now?

Oh and as a final kick in the balls, I logged in found my shit didn't work, ran around corner, got attacked, picked up a sword and then got ATHW... FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING PILE OF SHIT.

[Dexxtaa]

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+1 for Sonic reference.

Also, OP, great way to get stuff you want; be really rude and a complete butthead about it. gg

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Remove siege from game forever and ever and ever!

Remove rainbow from the game forever and ever and ever! Seriously, yet to read one post from you that wasn't "I am this thing, you must not be allowed to be that thing."

[Rainbow]

Remove rainbow from the game forever and ever and ever! Seriously, yet to read one post from you that wasn't "I am this thing, you must not be allowed to be that thing."

You're watched and i'm not.  nanananana boo boo