Iron Flesh

[Vibe]

I'm a BAWS!!!

Also:

1. Remove HP gain from Str
2. Remove WPF gain from leveling
3. Make IF give 4hp
4. Readjust WPF gain from WM
5. ???
6. Profit!

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[MrShine]

@ Meow's suggestion: That would intensely fuck up balance in general.  I would just respec to cav and plated charger bump everyone to death since HP totals would be down across the board.

[wanteds]

@ Meow's suggestion: That would intensely fuck up balance in general.  I would just respec to cav and plated charger bump everyone to death since HP totals would be down across the board.

This.

hp would be even lower than now with that formula, which is a step towards killing this mod.

[Leshma]

Health gain from STR/IF is hardcoded and changing it requires more effort than it's worth.

Say wut?

I'm pretty sure that back in the days IF gave you +3 HP. How come it's impossible now?

And I'm against it because I remember how it was. There will be even more STR builds than now, if they buff IF.

[wanteds]

And I'm against it because I remember how it was. There will be even more STR builds than now, if they buff IF.

So 99.99% of the players being agi builds is no problem, only the str builds are a thorn in the eye?

[Leshma]

So anyone who has more than 15 agi is agi build for you?

STR build is someone with 27 strength and higher. AGI build is the same, just with 27 AGI. How many players you know with 27 AGI (ninjas included)?

[Khalim]

If you think IF is in any way underpowered at the moment you lack an understanding of the mechanics of this game. IF is one of the best skills in the game hands down and buffing it would absolutely wreck any semblance of balance this game has.

True

If you have 40 HP and get +4 IF you have 20% more survivability.

Its also true that weapons do a lot of damage, but having more HP means, that CHANCES are higher, that you survive more hits. For instance it really does make a big difference if you survive 3 instead of 2 hits.

Or imagine how big the difference is when a Masterwork Arbalest hits you for 95% damage instead of 120%...

[wanteds]

So anyone who has more than 15 agi is agi build for you?

STR build is someone with 27 strength and higher. AGI build is the same, just with 27 AGI. How many players you know with 27 AGI (ninjas included)?

so an agi whore with 24 agi is not an agi whore? whaaaaat?

[EyeBeat]

I'm a BAWS!!!

Also:

1. Remove HP gain from Str
2. Remove WPF gain from leveling
3. Make IF give 4hp
4. Readjust WPF gain from WM
5. ???
6. Profit!

Give this man a medal.

[Ptolemy]

So anyone who has more than 15 agi is agi build for you?

STR build is someone with 27 strength and higher. AGI build is the same, just with 27 AGI. How many players you know with 27 AGI (ninjas included)?

I could name... including ninjas... for absolutely certain... 5? It would be more if I included ninjas that I'm not sure of the builds for.

so an agi whore with 24 agi is not an agi whore? whaaaaat?

24 agi isn't an agi whore. High agility yes, but not an agi whore. Having high agility doesn't necessarily make you an agi whore, just like having high strength doesn't necessarily make you a strength crutcher.

Also...

I'm a BAWS!!!

Also:

1. Remove HP gain from Str
2. Remove WPF gain from leveling
3. Make IF give 4hp
4. Readjust WPF gain from WM
5. ???
6. Profit!

*Throws a ball of wool to distract Meow from breaking the mod*

[WITCHCRAFT]

I've been playing an xbow user and for the last three generations didn't put a single point in IF. Having 15-18 strength is enough extra HP for a ranged character. With light or medium armor, you won't die to a random arrow hitting your shoulder or a single horse bump. You don't need to be any more meaty than that since you ideally won't be in close combat anyway.

I can even throw on some mail and grab a decent 2h to get kills if it's a crappy map for ranged combat (or if I am bored and just want to mix things up).

That said, if you are going for a heavily armored infantry or cavalry build, points in IF change you from a tin can to a GUNDAM

[Vkvkvk]

So anyone who has more than 15 agi is agi build for you?

STR build is someone with 27 strength and higher. AGI build is the same, just with 27 AGI. How many players you know with 27 AGI (ninjas included)?

I only know of myself frequently playing builds with 27 agility.

I'm a BAWS!!!

Also:

1. Remove HP gain from Str
2. Remove WPF gain from leveling
3. Make IF give 4hp
4. Readjust WPF gain from WM
5. ???
6. Profit!

Wouldn't this technically fuck over Agi builds? Sure, we'd finally have a noticeable WPF difference over strenght builds, but we'd be even more squishy which is a LOT to say since we already die in 2 hits if we're lucky, in most agi builds, there's no room left for IF and even if there was, it's only a few points compared to the 5IF and over that most strenght builds have.

[Dexxtaa]

nerf str.

Get those build copypastas out of my realm!

[_Sebastian_]

Say wut?

I'm pretty sure that back in the days IF gave you +3 HP. How come it's impossible now?

And I'm against it because I remember how it was. There will be even more STR builds than now, if they buff IF.

All effects of attributes, skills and weapon proficies are hardcoded... thats true.

I dont think that IF ever gave +3hp and I play M&B since the beta of the first game.
And if it is true, then the 3 hit points per IF were also hardcoded.

[Tom Cruise]

Do people really think that only 3 IF is enough? or am I just to much of a crutch with my 7 IF to realize it?